Well I have just been in a volley of e-mails with innovatice balancing's "Robert". It started when he emailed me suggesting a new valve stem core...
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>>>>Hi Harry,
>>>> I'm just checking, but I noticed you didn't order any valve cores for
>>>>your order. You may have some, but they are needed to keep the valve
>>>>core from leaking. I'm just checking to keep you from having to reorder
>>>>and pay another UPS charge. Please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Robert
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>>>SO I can't re-use the old one? If that's the case, throw one in there.
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>>>I am only ordering enough of this stuff to try it on my spare. I just
>>>wanted to see how it works. I have a Jeep with 245/75/16 Goodyear MT/R
>>>tires. They are a pretty aggressive tire and tough to keep balanced. I
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>>>never heard of this type of product and to be honest I was a bit leery,
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>so I
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>>>figured I'd try it on a spare tire and put the tire on a spin balancer to
>>>see how it worked.
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>>>Can you just add it to the order if it is a relatively inexpensive item?
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>If
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>>>so, go ahead and do so. If not, I can change my order on your site. Just
>>>let me know.
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>>>Thank you,
>>>Harry Gardner
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>>Hi Harry,
>> There's a few issues here...
>>1. You should use the filtered valve cores to prevent a bead from
>>getting caught in the valve core mechanism and sticking it open. If you
>>are just testing this, then forget it, but remember to always put air IN
>>the tire before checking pressure. That way you will blow any beads
>>sitting around the core away into the tire. If you decide to use it all
>>around, I would strongly recommend them.
>>
>>2. You have the incorrect amount for that tire. We use two different
>>formulas for weight calculations. One for aggressive tires, one for
>>road tires. The Aggressive Tire Chart is listed in the "Oversize Tire
>>Chart" section of the site, and those tires will take 5 oz..
>>If it's ok with you, I will change the order to 5 oz. Let me know.
>>
>>3. You cannot test on a tire machine.
>> A tire machine will get confused with the beads in the tire, and the
>>beads themselves require a spring suspension in order to work correctly,
>>and so will not function at all on a spring-less balancing machine. The
>>only way to test it is to mount it on the vehicle. I would suggest on
>>the front/drivers side.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Robert
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Harry Gardner wrote:
>Do you feel confident that this product would properly balance the tires on
>my Jeep? My concern was that this type of balancing was more geared for a
>heavier duty application like a tractor trailer tire or an RV and the
>lightweight jeep may be a problem.
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>We off-road junkies have a hell of a time keeping our mudders balanced. If
>you feel confident that it will work, I'll just go ahead and get them for 4
>tires and get 4 of the stems. If you think it best I try it on one tire
>first to be sure then I'll go that route and I'm ok with you changing the
>order to 5 oz.
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>I really appreciate you taking the time to answer these questions. I will
>say that you seem to have outstanding customer service. If this indeed
>works well for me I will no doubt post the results on the Jeep forums I
>frequent with a link to your website.
>
>Harry
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Hi Harry,
Yes, I think it will work fine on your Jeep tires. We do a lot of
business with the folks at http://www.pavementsucks.com, and from what I
understand, we have an excellent rep among those folks. These people
use some huge tires, and my customers use up to 44" tires. The only
problem I've encountered is the installation. The tire has to be free
of any tire/bead sealant, even a small amount on the inside will make
the beads stick to it like fly-paper.
I also use them on my own Dodge Duallie, with both road tires and the
new set of winter BFG Commercial T/A agresssive tread tires. I know
you're being cautious about this product and whether it will work or
not, so I'll change the order to 5 oz, and throw in one filtered valve
core. Make sure the tire is clean on the inside and has no sticky film.
I even suggest, if possible, wiping the interior with a rag with alcohol
to make sure.
Then remove the wheel weights, install the product, and give it a go.
If it works, order enough to do all the tires and 4 filtered valve cores.
How's that sound?
Regards,
Robert
By the way, find attached the owner of pavementsucks.com's personal
truck tires that he installed the beads in his split-rim, beadlocked
tires. he used 10 oz per tire, and ran it to 90 mph with no vibration.
Pictures attached.
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I'll try the spare, mounted on the Jeep. I'll let you all know how it turns out. (Pun intended)
