Jeepz.com - The ultimate Jeep and offroad site.
Go Back   Jeepz.com > Technical Forums > CJ YJ TJ and JK
Jeepz.com, the Ultimate Jeep and Offroad Message Board - Welcome Register today!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 0
1042487

My daughter's jeep will crank fine but will not start. What are the most likely causes and how do I go about diagnosing it??? [addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show thumper gallery
Sponsored Links - Removed for registered members
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 392
1042493

have you checked to see if it's getting spark? Also check to see if it's getting fuel. Those would be the places to start[addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Jeepr89 gallery
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Harrison, Ar
Posts: 8
1042513

Depending on the mileage, the pick up on the flywheel that senses crankshaft

position for the electronic ignition may be bad. I had to replace on of these

on my YJ after about 100,000. It is relatively easy to replace, but may be something

else. Check fuel pressure and make sure you are getting plenty of fire

through ignition system.



Only some suggestions, good luck! [img]modules/phpBB_14/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img] [addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show ad5at gallery
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Posts: 0
1042528

just a thought, maybe the electric fuel pump went out or is not working properly.[addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show YellowYJ gallery
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 0
1043742

Curious what you found out about your not starting problem? I have a 95 that will not start unless the key is turned to the on position for a while 3-20 mins then it will start and run fine. It turns over but unless I wait a while with the key in the on position it will not start. After the waiting period it makes a clicking sound coming from the power distribution box then the fuel rail charges the clicking stops and it will fire right up.[addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show btjeep gallery
Sponsored Links - Removed for registered members
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Scotts Valley, CA.
Posts: 32
Send a message via AIM to jprtroy Send a message via MSN to jprtroy Send a message via Yahoo to jprtroy
1044056

As mentioned eariler, Fuel, Spark, and air are the essitential's Missing one of the 3, motor won't start. With that knowledge, heres a question to ask yourself" What does it need to work?" list all the things it needs to run. Gas, spark, key, (to turn it on) spark plugs & wires, timing wheel sensor cap & rotor, MAP sensor, (fuel injected models) there's more involved but this will do for now.



Once you have a list, you can go about checking each item. It may seem like a lot of work, but most can be checked rather quickly with a quick glance. Like Gas. Is the carb. getting fuel? When you (or someone) steps on the peddle, can you see or smell fuel? If not, make a note, this will have to be fixed. If fuel injected, does the fuel pump turn on breifly? on at all? make a note.

Let's say it's getting fuel. The fuel won't burn without a spark. What generates the spark, ask that question again " what does it need to work?" For a spark, it's gonna need the battery, the coil, the ECM (electronic control module) or computer whichever.

It's going to need spark plugs,(are they gapped properly, clean, clogged?) wires, (are they good?) the cap & rotor. (are they good, cracked,? the rotor, does it still have a blade?)

To check for spark, you can remove the coil wire from the cap, and hold it close to any metal surface under the hood (with something insulated) that it'll reach, (carefull, don't have your hand close to the end, you may get ZAPPED) have someone turn the motor over. While it's "cranking" and the coil wire is close to metal, you should see a spark.

If not, well, that's why the motor won't start. Heres that question again "what does it need to work?" think, what causes the spark? well, there's the battery that supplies the "juice" or 12vdc. Theres the ECM (it sends battery voltage the coil) to create a spark) there's the coil, that amplifies the signal from the ECM to voltages that'll knock ya on yer butt, there's the coil wire, the cap and rotor.

Each of these will need to be looked at. We know there's no spark, so, either the coil or the ECM has gone south. Coils are lot cheaper than the control modules and usually go out more so than the control modules. You can test the ECM by measuring voltage on the coil's input. If , when the motor is cranking, you can find battery voltage on the input wires, chances are the ECM is fine. What's left? the coil.



Let's say there was a spark, it's getting fuel, still won't run. Hum? Timing? (the question again) well, the timing wheel pick up (sends signal to ECM, know's when to send sig to coil then) If it's bad, the ECM won't know when to send the "fire signal" there's more to it, but I think you can get the jist.

These were examples of how I determin what may be wrong. It may seem like a lot, but it really isn't. This form of troubleshooting can be used for practally anything that's broke. 2 simple question; Is it working? What does it need to work?



[addsig]
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show jprtroy gallery
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 PM.

Message Board Statistics

 Subscribe in a reader
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0