I'm moving to Australia!!!!! You have to read this:

[Gone&DoneIt]

Finally, a goverment with some BALLS!!! In a ever more PC world it is incredable to see a government take a stand. I actually got goosebumps when I heard this for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm sure you've all seen or heard about this by now (I was surprised it didn't get more coverage in the States,... actually no,... sadly I'm not that surprised.)

> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday
> to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to
> head off potential terror attacks.
>
> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
> Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
> Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
> crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
> hinted
>
> that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did
> not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by
> parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has
> Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said
> on
>
> national television.
>
> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
> governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the
> Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,
> independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the
> opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
> that's a better option", Costello said.
>
> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
> said
>
> those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
> country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
> Muslims
>
> who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically
> people
> who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian
> values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he
> said.
>
> Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
> saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
> "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired
> of
>
> this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or
> their
>
> culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge
> in
>
> patriotism by the majority of Australians."
>
> "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
> 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
> our
>
> patriotism was offending others. I am not
> against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is
> seeking a
> better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things
> that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born
> here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural
> community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national
> identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our
> own
> language and our own lifestyle."
>
> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
> trials
>
> and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom."
>
> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become
> part of our society, Learn the language!"
>
> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right
> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on
> Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
> It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If
> God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
> your new home, because God is part of our culture."
>
> "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
> that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
>
> "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go",
> then
>
> you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
> are
> happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't
> care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your
> culture, but do not force it on others.
>
> "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow
> you
>
> every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
> whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
> Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
> Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
>
> "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
> You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by Gone&DoneIt

"This idea of Australia being a multicultural
> community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national
> identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our
> own
> language and our own lifestyle."
>
> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
> trials
>
> and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom."
>
> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become
> part of our society, Learn the language!"
>
> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right
> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on
> Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
> It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If
> God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
> your new home, because God is part of our culture."

I wonder if we can get Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, "W", and any other of the mealy-mouthed politicians in our country to get on board with a policy like this one :confused:

Hats off to the Aussies.

[TwistedCopper]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Not a myth, either

[90Xjay]

Originally Posted by Gone&DoneIt

Finally, a goverment with some BALLS!!! In a ever more PC world it is incredable to see a government take a stand. I actually got goosebumps when I heard this for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm sure you've all seen or heard about this by now (I was surprised it didn't get more coverage in the States,... actually no,... sadly I'm not that surprised.)

> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday
> to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to
> head off potential terror attacks.
>
> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
> Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
> Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
> crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
> hinted
>
> that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did
> not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by
> parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has
> Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said
> on
>
> national television.
>
> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
> governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the
> Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law,
> independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the
> opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
> that's a better option", Costello said.
>
> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
> said
>
> those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other
> country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that
> Muslims
>
> who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically
> people
> who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian
> values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he
> said.
>
> Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
> saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:
> "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired
> of
>
> this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or
> their
>
> culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge
> in
>
> patriotism by the majority of Australians."
>
> "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
> 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
> our
>
> patriotism was offending others. I am not
> against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is
> seeking a
> better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things
> that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born
> here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural
> community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national
> identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our
> own
> language and our own lifestyle."
>
> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
> trials
>
> and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom."
>
> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become
> part of our society, Learn the language!"
>
> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right
> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on
> Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
> It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If
> God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
> your new home, because God is part of our culture."
>
> "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
> that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
>
> "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go",
> then
>
> you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We
> are
> happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't
> care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your
> culture, but do not force it on others.
>
> "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow
> you
>
> every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,
> whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or
> Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great
> Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
>
> "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
> You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Thats a good start, but they need to give the citizens their firearms back.
After the socialist there passed the gun ban in the late 90's, outlawing about 90% of all guns, the country has went to pot. It is esentially a police state, where the police can come into your home and search for unregistered prohibited firearms and copy the hard drive of you computer without a search warrant!

I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that about Australia, but it may be too little to late.

[90Xjay]

oops double post.
Darn that lag..

[Utah_jeepster]

I hate to say it, but maybe this is the right move. It might be time to throw political correct-ness out the door and take a 1840's stand by saying if you don’t like it...leave, or better yet, we don’t like your values and ideas...leave or we will kick your a** then we will throw you out.

Its time we all look at what Fundamental Islam and the radicals are teaching, one praises peace the other praises war, is this, a type of religion that we want in this world? Do we really need nut cases running around yelling “death to the infidels” then blowing themselves and dozen’s of innocence’s up?

The people of Islam need to understand that the world is no longer going to take this type of behavior. We will get so tired, we will lash out at any Islamic type group, radicalism or not. I don’t think they want this…

Mainstream Islam’s need to start policing there own groups with a VERY big stick, or we will, either as a mob or an iron fisted government.


Jumps off his political soap box…ok folks you can now take your pop shots at me…please don’t throw veggies, just words…now who ever threw that cantaloupe last time…I am still looking for you!

[TwistedCopper]

(hiding hand with canteloupe under fingernails behind back)

Sadly, it's becoming increasingly evident that the radicals are slowly becoming the mainstream.

[90Xjay]

Originally Posted by Utah_jeepster

I hate to say it, but maybe this is the right move. It might be time to throw political correct-ness out the door and take a 1840's stand by saying if you don’t like it...leave, or better yet, we don’t like your values and ideas...leave or we will kick your a** then we will throw you out.

Its time we all look at what Fundamental Islam and the radicals are teaching, one praises peace the other praises war, is this, a type of religion that we want in this world? Do we really need nut cases running around yelling “death to the infidels” then blowing themselves and dozen’s of innocence’s up?

The people of Islam need to understand that the world is no longer going to take this type of behavior. We will get so tired, we will lash out at any Islamic type group, radicalism or not. I don’t think they want this…

Mainstream Islam’s need to start policing there own groups with a VERY big stick, or we will, either as a mob or an iron fisted government.


Jumps off his political soap box…ok folks you can now take your pop shots at me…please don’t throw veggies, just words…now who ever threw that cantaloupe last time…I am still looking for you!

watch it... it will sober you up so bad, some folks might start being aware of whats going.http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

[Green97TJ]

Read the Quran... I'll leave my statements at that... Just read and draw your own conclusions.

[TwistedCopper]

What, you mean peace-loving religion like this???????:
# Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2

# Fight them until "religion is for Allah." 2:193

# Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206

# War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216

[TwistedCopper]

That, my friends, if what we face.

[90Xjay]

Now you know they really don't mean all of that.. afterall President Bush said they were a peacful religion in a speech after 9-11.

[TwistedCopper]

Just because their instruction book for life tells them to kill everyone who does not believe in their allah doesn't mean they are not peaceful. When we are all dead and they have dominated the Earth they will live in peace.

That's their story and their stickin' to it.

[90Xjay]

Originally Posted by TwistedCopper

Just because their instruction book for life tells them to kill everyone who does not believe in their allah doesn't mean they are not peaceful. When we are all dead and they have dominated the Earth they will live in peace.

That's their story and their stickin' to it.

I'm serious about that documentary, if you are remotely concerned about it, get it and watch it. To see about 20,000 people in an open court with a cleric leading them in "death to America" chants kind of changes your outlook on life

[Gone&DoneIt]

Originally Posted by 90Xjay

I'm serious about that documentary, if you are remotely concerned about it, get it and watch it. To see about 20,000 people in an open court with a cleric leading them in "death to America" chants kind of changes your outlook on life

Perordered,... if it sucks you owe me $25.00 Like in the South Park episode "Passion of the Jew",... I'll come looking for it!!!

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by 90Xjay

To see about 20,000 people in an open court with a cleric leading them in "death to America" chants kind of changes your outlook on life

The footage of them jumping up and down in celebration of the 9/11 attacks did that for me... at least my outlook on the world anyhow.

[Dorivin]

Ok, I have to say this, Don't just be hating on the Islamic Radicals. If you want to hate on them then you better hate on the Christian Radicals! Theres a group up north who has kids at the age of 8 ready to die in the name of the christian god. If anything should be done, ALL radical's of any religion should be thrown into a ring so they can slug it out and hopefully someone will jab the other in the throat and vice versa so they both won't be able to breathe and then YAY all Radicals are dead! HURRAY!!
PS: Austraila is founded by the british who dropped off their criminals to live there...And yes I know that abirginals were there before hand...

[Dorivin]

Oh yea, here's a site you guys need to check out about a movie that was made that I refrenced too earlier.

This movie is called Jesus Camp, and I know you guys have had to of seen it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0486358/

Heres a couple of clips and the website
http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/