Lifted VS Stock

PASmokeater · #1 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

I think by now your all sick of seeing my stocker pics, but if your interested J, drop me a line and I'll set you up with a link to my online album.

Rob
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Gspotracing · #2 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

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I think by now your all sick of seeing my stocker pics, but if your interested J, drop me a line and I'll set you up with a link to my online album.

Rob
:-P 8-)

Dude, What does that have to do with this post

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Mxpx182lit · #3 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

lift, locked, or stock, a Jeep is a Jeep[addsig]

Jeepster05 · #4 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

I'm afraid that ill lift mine too much and make it too easy to flip. I've come close too many times with my 2.5" lift and am planning on doing an SOA this summer so I guess I'll have to go with super wide tires. :-D :-D [addsig]

Gspotracing · #5 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

The pros about a stock jeep: Tires are cheap,better gas milege, and more aerodynamic. You can get in and out easy,and your wife or girlfriend looks cute in one!

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PASmokeater · #6 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

Hey y'all :) I've been with the board for awhile, and ya think I woulda learned how to express my thoughts lol. Yes the post was to show what a stocker is capible of. I am never afraid to abuse my stocker and she always gets me home. Even though I'm in process of lifting her (lotta rocks and rough terrain around here) my fondest memories will be of how she and I "grew" up together lol.
The point is, a stock Jeep is a GREAT way to break into the off roading scene. If your thing is to hit some mild trails with some small hill climbs,

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or a little water,

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or some mud

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the stock Jeep (on GSA's lol) will do just fine. The major factors are takin your time, gaining experiance, and knowin' when to say when.

Rob :-P 8-)

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[]lllllll[] · #7 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

It really all depends on how much offroading you do compared to how much street driving you do. A lift will help you offroad, but you cant take turns as fast as a stock jeep. It also depends on how much you plan on going over hills. I live in florida where is is almost completely flat, so i realy dont need articulation. I would rather go with new and longer shackles and a body lift to put on bigger tires, but if you like hills a spring lift is for you. And of course, a better driver will go futher than one that sucks. [addsig]

[]lllllll[] · #8 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

It really all depends on how much offroading you do compared to how much street driving you do. A lift will help you offroad, but you cant take turns as fast as a stock jeep. It also depends on how much you plan on going over hills. I live in florida where is is almost completely flat, so i realy dont need articulation. I would rather go with new and longer shackles and a body lift to put on bigger tires, but if you like hills a spring lift is for you. And of course, a better driver will go futher than one that sucks. [addsig]

[]lllllll[] · #9 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

It really all depends on how much offroading you do compared to how much street driving you do. A lift will help you offroad, but you cant take turns as fast as a stock jeep. It also depends on how much you plan on going over hills. I live in florida where is is almost completely flat, so i realy dont need articulation. I would rather go with new and longer shackles and a body lift to put on bigger tires, but if you like hills a spring lift is for you. And of course, a better driver will go futher than one that sucks. [addsig]

[]lllllll[] · #10 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

It really all depends on how much offroading you do compared to how much street driving you do. A lift will help you offroad, but you cant take turns as fast as a stock jeep. It also depends on how much you plan on going over hills. I live in florida where is is almost completely flat, so i realy dont need articulation. I would rather go with new and longer shackles and a body lift to put on bigger tires, but if you like hills a spring lift is for you. And of course, a better driver will go futher than one that sucks. [addsig]

Gspotracing · #11 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

Tug, his post did not say anything about the subject. I realize what he meant now, but his post made no sense. I think your all a great bunch of guys on this site. I'm just having a little fun. Just my two cents!

If you can afford a digital camera, you should be able to get a small lift and some fresh rubber.
But then again, I don't even now how to put a picture on this site!

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JE420EP · #12 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

G-sport your lips or brown from kissing but.[addsig]

Gspotracing · #13 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

It's GSPOTRACING homey, and little butt kissing never hurts. "SPORTO"
Isn't it about 420 right now! :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P

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Gspotracing · #14 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

[quote]Pro and Cons? How far can you get in a stock jeep. Does a lift make you a better wheeler. Can a trail leader lead the pack in a stock jeep with bigger jeeps behind him. Is it all in the driver or is it all in the trails you choose to take. Just wanted to hear from you stock guys and you lifted guys.

Let's be honest guys, stock sucks! If we all had the cash are jeepz would not be stock....

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PASmokeater · #15 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

First off, I refuse to make an attack on G, he responded to a post that he didn't understand (most likely due to the fact that I didn't fully express my thoughts).

I think we all need to calm down a bit and not let the old which came first, Chicken or egg debate split us all up again. It's going to be a matter of personal preferance, or as Tug said neccessity. Either way, a lift does not make one Jeep BETTER than another, only different. It all depends on what you use your Jeep for. Weekend toy, daily driver, so-so trails, or Moab style. Different terrain calls for different mods (don't REALLY need a 10" lift for surf fishing on the beach lol, but it might be fun to have).

I use my stock Jeep for having fun and I push it to it's limits every weekend. I think My pics speak for themselves. All of those pics are of my completly stock 99 TJ right down to the stock street GSA's. The bottom line is I HAVE FUN !!!!!!! If I'm wrong then I'll let you all know right now, that I intend to be wrong alot.

Now, as for the "affording a digital camera" remark. I won't get into childish squabbles about what I can or cannot afford, of justify a statement like this with alot of wasted time. I just wanted to let G know that yes, i could have gone with a spacer lift and 31's and would have had it done a year ago. But I sat down, thought about what I wanted to do with my Jeep, the terrain I would be crawilng over, and decided that that would be a waste of money, so instead I saved until I could do what I wanted. A 4" BDS lift, steering stabilzer, multi stage shocks, Disco fronts, welded T-case bracket and 33's on new rims. This will be going on this weekend and more pics will follow. It's taken awhile because I've had other expenses to contend with (I'm a single father of a very high maintenance 15 year old daughter lol).

I hope this answers your questions, and hopeffuly diffuses a bad situation.

Oh...btw...the camera was a Christmas present from my parents about 3 years ago...pre-Jeep.

Rob[addsig]

JeepinSE · #16 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

Stock jeeps are kewl!!!!![addsig]

duff · #17 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

good answer Rob. [addsig]

JE420EP · #18 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

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I used to wheel the hell out of my jeep when it was stock. When I bought it I had the mentality of being unstoppable (also the fact that I am 21 yrs old hehe). Anyway my first day of having the jeep I took it wheeling along with my friend in his jeep and almost immediately got high centered going over some rough stuff. I was like hmm...oh well. My friend pushed my jeep off with his and we continued on. The though hung in my mind and so I wheeled my stocker more and saved my pennies.

Now I have a 4" suspension lift and 31's. Let me tell you this I can go a LOT more places than my friend can in his stock jeep. We don't do much wheeling together anymore I guess because I show him up too much hehe (mainly we both work all the time so we have little free time). Stuff that he scrapes and snags on I just bounce right over. I don't think that a lift will make you a better wheeler...the only thing that will do that is EXPERIENCE.

For the most part I think wheeling in my stock jeep was sometimes a bit more fun

because I actually had to work my way around obstacles instead of just easily climbing right over them. Of course there really isn't too much close around my area that can put my lifted jeep to the challenge. I need to head on up to the mountains so I can find some better places to wheel.

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PASmokeater · #19 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

I just think that we can all get along due to the fact that we are all one big happy family.

Rob :-P 8-)

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kraken · #20 (**permalink**) 07-20-2003, 08:00 PM

I dont know about any chickens, but i do know that the few times ive gone wheelen with my stock TJ the only time ive had troube is when i get hung up. Bigger tires and a small lift are def in my future.[addsig]