hi-lift winching...

phatyaspen · #1 (**permalink**) 12-25-2003, 08:53 AM

how is this done...ive seen it in magazines and stuff but how do you do it?can it be done w/o the hi lift winch tool?please tell me!i wanna put my enw hi lift to use

OutOfStep · #2 (**permalink**) 12-25-2003, 12:59 PM

You just take the top thingy off and put orient it the same as the one thats usually for your bumper hook it up to two tow straps and then jack it up and it will spread apart and pull you foreward, kinda like this:

I got the Images from here, its a decent tutorial http://www.4x4now.com/bb0997.htm

OutOfStep · #3 (**permalink**) 12-25-2003, 01:06 PM

Though actually looking at it now it should be used as in the picture instead of using the top clamp

graewulf · #4 (**permalink**) 12-26-2003, 10:11 AM

if you're gonna winch that style, i strongly recommend replacing the top clamp with a Jack Mate http://www.trekoutfitters.com/extra/hi_jack/. the top clamp on the hi-lift is only rated to 4000lb. the jack mate is rated more than the hi-lift. Another solution is a length of 3/8 chain (like 30ft) and the Hi-lift off-road kit. make sure its the new kit not the old one. http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=108 - this kit allows the jack to "climb" the chain without releasing the load. much safer than having to reset the whole rig because you ran out of travel.

mingez · #5 (**permalink**) 04-29-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by graewulf

if you're gonna winch that style, i strongly recommend replacing the top clamp with a Jack Mate http://www.trekoutfitters.com/extra/hi_jack/. the top clamp on the hi-lift is only rated to 4000lb. the jack mate is rated more than the hi-lift. Another solution is a length of 3/8 chain (like 30ft) and the Hi-lift off-road kit. make sure its the new kit not the old one. http://www.ok4wd.com/product.asp?id=108 - this kit allows the jack to "climb" the chain without releasing the load. much safer than having to reset the whole rig because you ran out of travel.

That's an AWESOME site!

TwistedCopper · #6 (**permalink**) 04-29-2004, 09:06 PM

The top clamp is rated the same as the jack. If you replace the top clamp with something rated 20K lbs, it does not increase the capacity of the jack one single pound :wink: . If you want to increase your pulling capacity, use something with a sheave like a snatch block or a sherman-reilly block. For winching, the Jack mate is not at all neccessary. It would come in handy for compressing and other things, and it looks like a pretty handy product, but any kind of winching can be done easily without it. You just need some good ol' shackles and straps.

graewulf · #7 (**permalink**) 04-30-2004, 07:19 AM

I wouldn't trust that top clamp for whiching.. It's nowhere as stable as the jack mate. I want to be sure the shear pin is the weak link.. thats why i'm getting grade 80 (7100lb) chain to use for winching...

jeeperjoe · #8 (**permalink**) 04-30-2004, 09:44 AM

the hi-lift itself is rated at 5000lbs for winching.

graewulf · #9 (**permalink**) 04-30-2004, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeeperjoe

the hi-lift itself is rated at 5000lbs for winching.

The jack is safety rated for 4660lb, but tested to over 7000lb (the shear pin rating) you can easily winch right up tot he 7000lb the jack will handle, which is why you want grade 80 chain, not grade 70...

TwistedCopper · #10 (**permalink**) 04-30-2004, 10:24 PM

Hilifts have been used many many times with the original top on it. I never heard of any problems with it. Again, I'll say that looks like a nice handy little doohickey but...

**edit** Load ratings must break at over 150% of its rating. This is to compensate for manufactering defects, etc. If it's rated at 4660, it shouldn't break until around 6990 lbs, but I would think if you go over the rating, and it breaks and/or sonmeone gets hurt, it's your own fault. I wouldn't go past the load rating, it is asking for tradgedy.As I wrote earlier, you can lighten your load with a a pully if needed.

bchcky · #11 (**permalink**) 05-01-2004, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by phatyaspen

please tell me! i wanna put my new hi lift to use

now now, be careful what you wish for.

phatyaspen · #12 (**permalink**) 05-01-2004, 10:59 AM

ok so... my friend burried his toyota in the woods near his house... i couldnt get a good tug so i said hey we'll winch u out w/ my hi lift... found out that straps work but if you use chain on both ends you are best off...heres how i did it. hooked a chain from the trucks rear reciever to the top of the hi-lift. then a chain through a hole on the part that jacks... then tied that end off around a tree... then jacked until he was out. it took about 5 full jacks to get him out.... hope this them who wonder now