Jeepz.com - The ultimate Jeep and offroad site.
Go Back   Jeepz.com > Technical Forums > Cherokee, Commander, Wagoneer and Liberty
This section Sponsored By
Jeepz.com, the Ultimate Jeep and Offroad Message Board - Welcome Register today!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2007, 01:53 PM
Senior Member
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
Cherokee
1989
rusty's long arm
35 bfgs for the street. 33 ltbs and 33 boggers for wheeling
    
Real Name: chance stitzell
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lebanon oregon
Posts: 303
welding diff

so i was thinking about welding me rear diff since i lost my LS (broke it) i have a very bad tration needi have a dana 35 with 35 BFG is this a esasy way for tration can i change gear after i weld them?? i have a fabricator that will weld it for me i just want the pros and cons
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show blown XJ gallery
Sponsored Links - Removed for registered members
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2007, 07:13 PM
Member
 
    
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sussex, New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 46
Re: welding diff

Yeah welding your diff is definatley a cheap way to go for traction. I personally have never run a welded diff but I hear many different stories of welded diffs from lasting a long time to lasting a few days. If you have good solid welds I cant see why you would have any problems. A con to a welded diff is that you should keep checking your welds regularly.
__________________
1991 Cherokee
4.0L H.O, 33 Inch Herc's
HP Dana 30(Front) 8.25 Chrysler(Rear Welded)
3.73 Gears, 9500LB Champion Winch
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show CrashNBurn gallery CrashNBurn
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2007, 11:23 PM
Bounty__Hunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
YJ Wrangler
1995
6"
36"
    
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 9,993
Re: welding diff

I ran a welded D35 for several years, up to 33" tires behind a 2.5L engine. Never had a problem.

Welding the spiders in a limited slip can be tricky, you won't be able to weld any gear to the case due to the clutch packs. Fill in the 8 pockets where the side gears and spider gears mesh with a lot of metal and you should be fine.
__________________
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Bounty__Hunter gallery
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
Cherokee
1989
rusty's long arm
35 bfgs for the street. 33 ltbs and 33 boggers for wheeling
    
Real Name: chance stitzell
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lebanon oregon
Posts: 303
Re: welding diff

no i got an open diff now i got a new axle i have 35's and a 4.0 with some power mods and i pretty haevy right foot do you think it will still hold up my friend is a great welder and he did it on his chevy and drives the hell out of it and hasnt broke in 3 years so im going to have him do it. but i have stock gears now if i weld this gears can i regear it after i weld my present ones up?
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show blown XJ gallery
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2007, 04:50 AM
TwistedCopper's Avatar
Senior Member
 
    
Real Name: Harry
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,912
Re: welding diff

I'd go for it, but remember you're pushing your D35 with 35" tires no matter what you have in the pumpkin. I'd keep that in mind before being heavy on the skinny pedal open or welded
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show TwistedCopper gallery
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2007, 12:54 PM
Bounty__Hunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
YJ Wrangler
1995
6"
36"
    
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 9,993
Re: welding diff

D35 with a 4.0L and a heavy right foot is not a good combo. You may get by for a short time wheelin like that, either open or welded, but it's gonna give. Consider a Ford 8.8 with the 4.10 and limited slip, I can get them around here for $100 and they install pretty easily. The 8.8 will handle almost everything you can throw at it with 35" tires.

You will still be able to regear after welding the spiders.
__________________
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Bounty__Hunter gallery
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2007, 01:47 PM
Senior Member
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
Cherokee
1989
rusty's long arm
35 bfgs for the street. 33 ltbs and 33 boggers for wheeling
    
Real Name: chance stitzell
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lebanon oregon
Posts: 303
Re: welding diff

thats great but i dont have the money to get a 8.8 and then i would have to regear my front to match im on a very tight buget
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show blown XJ gallery
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2007, 04:38 PM
Bounty__Hunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
YJ Wrangler
1995
6"
36"
    
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 9,993
Re: welding diff

The 8.8 can be found with many of the same ratios as jeeps, if you can afford one. $12 for a pair of spring perches and somebody to weld them and the shock mounts on for you.
__________________
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Bounty__Hunter gallery
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-04-2007, 10:04 PM
LRwrnglr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
    
Real Name: Connor
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas
Posts: 248
Send a message via MSN to LRwrnglr
Re: welding diff

My brother put a spool, same idea, for about $80 from O'Reily's and it has held up excellent. He's had no problems. Just a thought

LR
__________________
03' Liberty, Rusty's K&N tube and filter, 2.5" Rusty's Suspension Lift, 31" Hercules Trail Diggers
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show LRwrnglr gallery
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 09:54 AM
Bounty__Hunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
YJ Wrangler
1995
6"
36"
    
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 9,993
Re: welding diff

There are no spools or mini-spools manufactured for the D30 or D35. I'd have them if they were, well, before I went to 44's.
__________________
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Bounty__Hunter gallery
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 01:06 PM
LRwrnglr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
    
Real Name: Connor
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas
Posts: 248
Send a message via MSN to LRwrnglr
Re: welding diff

Oh ok. That makes sense, my brother drives an old Ford F150 so I think its a Ford 9".
__________________
03' Liberty, Rusty's K&N tube and filter, 2.5" Rusty's Suspension Lift, 31" Hercules Trail Diggers
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show LRwrnglr gallery
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Utah_jeepster's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
TJ Wrangler
2001
4"
33"
    
Real Name: Steven
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Draper, Utah
Posts: 2,131
Send a message via AIM to Utah_jeepster Send a message via MSN to Utah_jeepster
Re: welding diff

Still a D35 on 35's...a bad combo, add in a heavy right foot and your asking it to break.
I would suggest you don't weld it and save your money till you could afford a bigger axle that your could weld up. For if is your daily driver your going to riding the bus soon with a welded D35 on 35's.
__________________


The tricky part is not being able to drive it in....but being able to drive it out.
2001 TJ 4" of lift, long arm kit,ARB's F/R with a viair 450c. Custom front bumper,rocker panels, and sliders.
Only 220 miles to Moab
Only 1622 miles to Red's fridge full of (non-utahian) beer
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Utah_jeepster gallery Utah_jeepster
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-06-2007, 10:06 PM
almostcj7's Avatar
Member
 
    
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Oregon City, Oregon
Posts: 87
Re: welding diff

I have a D-70 under my CJ-7, Welded it, and the only draw back is a little tire chirping on the pavement. Just dont try to drive on ice, Welds dont unlock!
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show almostcj7 gallery
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-08-2007, 01:48 PM
Senior Member
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
Cherokee
1989
rusty's long arm
35 bfgs for the street. 33 ltbs and 33 boggers for wheeling
    
Real Name: chance stitzell
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lebanon oregon
Posts: 303
Re: welding diff

its not me daily driver im in the process of buying a comanchee dana 44 for a guy on a comanchee forum i will prolly go with some kind of locker other then welding it for the 44
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show blown XJ gallery
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-09-2007, 08:37 PM
Bounty__Hunter's Avatar
Moderator
 
Jeep :
Year :
Lift :
Tires :
YJ Wrangler
1995
6"
36"
    
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 9,993
Re: welding diff

One plus of me swapping to D44's was the availability of full spools. Many I know don't go back after spooling.
__________________
Reply With Quote
View Public Profile Send a private message to %1$s Show Bounty__Hunter gallery
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:05 PM.


 Subscribe to our RSS feed   |   View Jeepz.com on your Iphone