A couple of times, I´ve kinda held my breath, with the vice and socket method. But with some good penitrating oil and a couple of wacks with a hammer, had always gotten them to come out, with the socket method. Of course I have a really big vice, did break a smaller cast iron vice once.
Just make sure you have the locking rings out before you press. Been there done that.
edited by: MudderChuck, Jul 21, 2003 - 10:20 AM[addsig]