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should i be insulted? or better yet should my rig be insulted? please explain why i should not or can not take my 89 yj on trails. did i miss something ? ......odax :-x :-x :-x [addsig]
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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i've heard that those old stock metal fans take 17 Horses off the engine i thought about a eletric fans but i did'nt wana fool with it so i got to looking at light and durable fans and i found a "Flex-a-lite" 400 series it's nylon it says it's good up to 8,000 RPMs so thats my suggestion( i can't spell he he)  [addsig]
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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The electric fan offers much better cooling if and only if you match the needed airflow with the engine configuration. That’s usually the problem - any fan won't do. Get the strongest pulling fan that'll fit behind the radiator. For example, the Flex-a-Lite company makes the Black Majic fan that pulls 2200 cfm. That’s more than some flex fans. Running electric fans on big block engines gets very pricy, but we’ve got small blocks that can easily be managed with electrics.
Besides relieving the engine of the burden of twisting yet another device with the crank, electric fans
1. consume less fuel because the engine isn’t twisting the fan
2. relieve stress on the water pump increasing its life span
3. let the engine run cooler as the engine no longer has to turn the fan
4. release lost power to where you want it – at the wheels.
By the way, flex fans are known to fly apart at a much higher frequency than electric motors are known to fail.
And if you want to think of the reliability of an electric fan motor leaving you stuck in the boonies . . . just how are you handling the other eletronics such as the alternator, the many sensors in a fuel injection system, and the electric fuel pump??
More and more new vehicles are equipped with electric fans for good reason. Look into the research before jumping to conculsion. This argument reminds me of when people put the plastic milk container in the paper bag because they don’t want to polute – inconsistant.
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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Morgster, i have the black magic on my 92 6 cyl ho with a new rad, h20 pump and a good flush 100k on the mileage. I run 200-ish. Remember that the factory manual calls for a thermostat that opens at 195 degrees. These computer-controlled engines only have a small variance for efficient power delivery.
Good luck.
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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Has anyone tried to put a electric fan on a TJ??? if so how did it turn out??? [addsig]
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From the XJ engine compartments I've seen, you've got a LOT tighter fit behind the radiator than my 2.5L YJ. You may have to move quite a bit to get the fan and shroud out.
Most 4.0L XJ's I've seen like to run hot, so I'd only do it on one of those if the cooling system was in top working order.[addsig]
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Tug, you won't 'feel' the power improvement from adding an electric fan, but with the 4banger, every little bit helps, right :-D I figure it's the entire package of parts that makes the 4banger more powerful and more fun to drive :-O
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summit is where i saw the other flex a lite fan i plan on getting  [addsig]
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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MORRGSTER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE CASH, GO TO THE JUNK YARD AND PICK UP A DUAL FAN SET UP OUT OF A NISSAN. HOOK ONE SIDE UP ON A AUTO TEMP. SWITCH AND THE OTHER ON A MANUAL SWITCH. YOU'LL NEVER BE STRANDED........FOR A TOTAL COST OF $65 BUCKS.. WHAT UP WITH THAT
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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i have a flex a lite fan and i love it. it has added hose power not a lot but with a four banger i need all i can get.  [addsig]
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IT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT PEOPLE USE THE TERM 420 AND JEEPING TOGETHER. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO WHEEL WHEN YOUR HIGH. JEEPERS DO HAVE FAMILIES AND YOUR ENDANGERING THERE LIVES ALSO.  [addsig]
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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ODAX he said you dont want to take a 1898 jeep on the trails not a 1989. Just thought id clear that up[addsig]
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That guy JE420EP...  [addsig]
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odax - in his original post he said he had a 1898 jeep, making it something of a collectors item because i dont believe jeep even existed then, so having a jeep when they dont exist would be something of a feat, and you wouldnt wanna offroad it, hes since edited it which is why that comment doesnt make sense[addsig]
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that could be his birthday g spot, and people could take your name in negative ways as well.....[addsig]
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Who said anything about being high. Plus i think drinking on the traill is what puts people in danger. Anything that takes you out of your mind is not safe on the trail. I bet you never hit a g spot in you life. Your own don't count!!  [addsig]
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jeep master, how could you make anything about a gspot sound bad????????
je420ep,if your not a dope addict then what does 420 mean?????
please stop making fun of me....  [addsig]
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07-20-2003, 08:00 PM
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When do you have it set to come on. I have mine at about 180*-190*.[addsig]
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okkkkkkk, i stand corrected. think that post about the 1889 yj still went over my head , but i am short anyway. my wife still wants a 63 mustang , ongoing joke here at the casa bella....odax :-? [addsig]
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I'm going through the same problems with heating/cooling too. I was considering the fan, clutch, and shroud combo, but now I'm thinking electric. Would the Black Magic model be able to take care of a V-8?
Thanks[addsig]
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