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Thread: Regard and Respect
07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #1
As an interested participant in this process and one who is quite tired of reading disrespectful comments about someone else's comments, i feel compelled to reply.
The issue here is about respect, nothing less. Some have responded positively to the errant ways of others, while some have chosen (or lacked the courage to make the right choice) to take the comment with a grain of sand and move on.
PASmokeater hit it squarely on the head. What concerns me is the way this negativity is propagated by members with more posting experience who, through their number of postings, earned the title 'Trail Leader'. Such behavior is not what we would expect from a leader and, quite frankly, embarrasses me as a leader myself.
I can tell you this: Your collective comments and expertise on Jeep mechanics is priceless to me; that's why I take the time to log in. However, this behavior of disrespectful word smearing (which by the way, in some cases has approached libel) has increased in both frequency and duration becoming more the norm rather than the exception.
This is not cool, tough, nor mature. If this behavior was demonstrated in my company under my watch, the responsible person would be separated.
We are currently at war. People are dying. Although people die all the time, unfortunately most from careless behavior on someone else's part, they're dying now as a result of aggression.
If you can't get along on this board, in a civil, respectful, mentoring way, I personally would ask you to censure or separate yourself until your behavior is more appropriate.
I openly ask our "Trail Leaders" to display more leadership than others, or request the title to reflect 'A Lot of Postings" rather than "Leader". I've tolerated an adequate dosage of bad leadership in work to not have to tolerate it here.
One last thing, from observable behavior, I fully expect to be censured myself from further proceedings here from the more senior contributors and respectfully accept.
If I cease to receive responses to my questions/suggestions so be it.
I still find this process helpful and only hope that my experiences offer assistance to others, as I have always intended.
07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #2
I agree, but it should not be the lone responsibility of our trail leader. everyone should take some small once of responsibility and do what they can do to prevent negativity!
This is very similar to what is happening right now in American History. I may not be over in Iraq fighting on the front line, But DAMN SURE, I AN SUPPORTING MY TROOPS HERE!! They are Americas trail leaders, blazing the way for freedom and as a proud American I stand behind them helping when needed and sacraficing when asked![addsig]It used to be a jeep Thing,
But all that stuff broke
07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #3
I agree bluebelle! Very well put! I am a mechanic and some of the comments I read are ridiculas. You also have to remember that some people for some reason just want to have the most posts. PLEASE when someone makes a comment please make sure you've experienced it or know about that subject. There are people here who do need help with repairs and may not be that mechanically inclined and I would hate to see these people take all the suggestions seriously and do damage to their Jeep or harm themselves. I saw one comment from one of the leaders, Someone was asking about a scratching noise and they replied ther is a squirrel in your tranny. All I ask is have some knowledge or experience to add to a problem. Just don't type something real quick to reply for a post :-( [addsig]
07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #4
i agree. however, it is not just the "Trail Leaders" or Moderators who are capable of leading. even the newbies can be respectful. [addsig]
07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #5
JAY89 you are right about that. I work on cars and jeeps all the time, People do need the right info. I saw bs info came out and i sparked a fire. I have rebuilt my jeep from the ground up. I have friends that i've helped them build there rigs. I have been doing this for almost ten years. I am pussing 30 years of age.
I saw someone that had a jeep that looked like mine when i bought it. I know what it can do and what it can't done. The same person has talk alot smack just to get that spot.
Look though the post of that guy and you will see for yourself. This same guy has a lot of one liners. This will be the last time that anything about this guy will be said from me. God bless our troops!!!
1990yj - 2.5l - 4.5RE extream duty - 33's 12.50 BFG mt km - 4.88's - ARB - K&N - Flex a lite fan - Master Craft seats - Full Roll Cage - Currie Tail Shaft - Tom Woods Drive Line - Flow Master - High Flow Cat - Clifford Header - JKS quick dis - There might be more The 2.5 has only 20,000 miles on it and the trans has about 13,000 miles on it.
The only work that i had done was the ARB and the Gears.[addsig]90yj 2.5l 4.5RE EX duty,1\" body lift,33 12.50 BFGKM\"S,Clifford Header,High Flow Kat,K@N FlowMaster,Flex-a-lite Fan,MasterCraftSeats, 4.88\'s, ARB,Full Cage,Currie SYE,Tom Wood CV Driveshaft,JKS Quick Diss.
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07-20-2003, 07:00 PM #6
jay89, as a mechanic you know how difficult it is to not jump on some postings when you know there's something incorrect. Promise you'll set my diagnosis straight when you see an error - it's the only way I'll learn.
dingus, spoken like a true leader.
We're all in the position of leading, just do the right thing.
Thanks for the input.