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    The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    So, been doing several mods to 'Betty' over the last couple of years and the latest was installing an Class M clutch rod setup, as part of a compliance with that JP article regarding CJ fixes/upkeep a couple of months back.
    My question is, despite the instructions (sketchy as they were) they were clear that no parts of the OE lower rod setup are to be used in conjunction with the Class M. So they have the threaded lower clutch rod end in contact with the throwout bearing arm directly. The OE? setup used a ball end threaded sleeve, apparently to ease griding against the thowout arm. Any ideas if this is kosher?
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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)




    well, thats better.

    As for your clutch, If I am understanding exactly what you are saying, I see no problem assuming you have full range of motion. if you can, try to incorporate a AG heim joint to join the two.. Pics certainly would help just know exactly what you are talking about.
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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    The photos show the OE rod adjuster on the left and the M Class on the right. The shorter rod shown has no 'clutch rod adjuster' attached, further, the instructions specify that no OE hardware is to be used.
    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    Mee-freakin'-yow!!!!!!!!!!!
    Just wanna' get a little dirty ; - )~

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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    the adjustment would be in the heims.
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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    Right jps, I'm clear on that but notice the ball end of the adjuster on the OE adjuster, then, the threaded rod end of the class M, either of which would be in the detent of the clutch fork. My concern~wouldn't the threaded rod abrade the detent to the point of break-through eventually?
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    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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    The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    The thoery of the detent ball eventually wearing through the clutch sounds kosher however, I've haven't seen it happen. I keep mine greased every oil change and haven't had problems with it.
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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    I wouldn't worry about it. if it truely is a concern.. and I am just thinking out loud here... where the ball sits in the clutch fork, I would drill a hole that is about 1/8-3/16" larger than the threaded rod (basically removing the "female" portion where the "ball" sits in. I would go to the auto parts store and pick up some basic rubber sway bar end link bushings bushings, one on each side of the hole you drilled and then stick the threaded rod through and secure it with a Nylon locking nut. shouldn't wear it out, still have some of the flexability
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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    Thank you jps, also I was thinking of a crown nut serving the same purpose
    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    [QUOTE=SteelHeadz;232097]The theory of the detent ball eventually wearing through the clutch sounds kosher[QUOTE]
    The adjuster on the OE unit showed no signs of wear either Steel, but this M class rod has no ball end~just the threaded rod itself, hence my concern with it abrading the clutch fork
    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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    Re: The 'Betty' page (and no, I don't mean Bettie Page)

    Contacted the manufacturer and their response was "There are no additional pieces to the kit. The threaded rod insert is designed to recess against the clutch fork. We have been selling them for many years this way and have never heard of one excessively wearing the clutch fork. However, if you would like to put an acorn nut on the end of yours that would be fine and it would not negatively effect the linkage kit. The threads on that rod are 3/8" - 24 (fine thread)."
    So I think I'm going this was to err on the side of caution.
    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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