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    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'

    Man, I hate these things. this may cross over to Jeeps later than mine but with the way the auto industry is going I thought I'd show some photos of what I'm contending with for errant gauge readings. Note: I am NOT a know it all, I'm learning as I go as I have found very little information about these kind of gauges/insturment panels.

    In keeping with JeepHammer's idiom, I always do my best to provide POSITIVE soldered connections +/- in all of my auto applications, in order to not have to do things twice.

    The following photos show teardown;

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060983.jpg
    here's the IP you may note the low reading of the oil pressure gauge, this I've detirmined is a flase reading (I HATE ELECTRICAL GAUGES).

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060985.jpg
    First remove anything piking through the IP (like this Trip OD reset knob)

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060986.jpg
    Also if you have any ancilliary switches these will have to be disconnected as well berfore removing the dash. On this application the light switch harness, snowplow lights, and bakup warning beeper defeat lever switch.

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060987.jpg
    Once the dash is removed this insturment panel has four set screw in the corners, then it just pulls right out (no harness to disconnect by means show in the following photo.

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060989.jpg
    This is what makes snap buckle electrical connectors unnessesary, this mates to a sub panel in the dash that makes contact with this circuit board.

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060988.jpg
    This is a shot of the back of the IP

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060990.jpg
    And this is how the mfr. proposed to have electrical connections to the gauges.

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060982.jpg
    A cloe up of these 'stab in' gauges from the backside.

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    The gauges are screwed into the back of the ip at this location, this entails seperating first the clear plastic overshield, then taking note of gauge at rest positions (I have a functioning IP for this) then removing the needles with a plastic fork or other.
    The screws holding the gauges into this plate are T9 torx

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060996.jpg
    These are the 'stab in' gauges

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060997.jpg
    The gauges are individually numbered as I suspect there are different impedance rules for each gauge.

    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-p1060999.jpg
    I took a Sharpie to the opposite side to eliminate confusion if the gauges get scrambled.

    My plan is to first try to source through Mouser and others if these are available new. If not my plan is to clean then up as best I can with electrical parts cleaner.

    More to come.
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    Re: Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'

    Oh Man, you'd think with my constant reccomendations about JeepHammers' threads that I'd have thought of this first.
    Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'-oil-pressure-gauge-ground.jpg

    These type of gauges only make slight contact with no solder. The Circuit Board itself is pliable that compromises the connections. Is there some way to solder these for POSITIVE connection? Low temp solder? Unique tips?
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    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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    Re: Modern insturment panels with 'stab in gauges'

    Edit: I went to my shop owner 'go to' guy and using an LED flashlight also noticed the gaps and he reccomended just pressing these tabs down with a pair of picks or screwdrivers equally on each side to bend the tabs into position once again. I sure as heck don't like this design, but what else is there to do?

    Edit: The Oil Pressure gaige is still bottoming out after about 7 minutes of driving.
    Last edited by Turbogus; 08-02-2018 at 09:12 AM.
    Quick fixes are so named for how long they stay fixed.
    If you run out of gas, no matter which way you decide to push, the closest gas station will always be uphill and in the other direction. Corollary: The likelihood of running out increases when all of the nearby gas stations are closed.
    The parts shop that stocks part for Skylab II will not have parts for our year/model of Jeep.
    We cannot accurately judge the trajectory of a speeding critter (cat, dog, sasquatch).

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