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    Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    It's been a couple of years, and my steering is sloppy again. I'm planning on using some ZJ parts on my TJ this time around, and replacing everything:


    DS1430 TJ OUTER CONNECTING TIE ROD END - PASSENGER SIDE-Right Outer (Drag Link) (x1)
    ES3096L TJ FRONT OUTER TIE ROD END - AT PITMAN ARM (x1)


    DS1312 ZJ Tie Rod (x1)
    ES3096L ZJ FRONT OUTER TIE ROD END - AT PITMAN ARM (x1)


    ES2079S Adjusting Sleeve (x2)

    New steering stabilizer

    Moog K3176 Track Bar Bushing (Axle side trackbar bushing on my setup)


    Do you guys normally replace the Adjusting Sleeves when you do front end work? They don't look like a part that would wear out. At $25 for the pair it won't break the bank, but I'd rather spend that money on candy.

    Any thoughts on my parts list? I'm looking at the ZJ tie rod as it's supposed to be solid, and a direct swap.
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    Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    Got to ask. Why so often is steering going sloppy?
    Running 35s
    Constant DW
    Hard off-roading?


    I upgraded my steering preventatively last time was DW took out drag link TRE and track bar.
    I bought this
    Crown Automotive HDSTRGCR1 Heavy Duty Steering Kit
    Verdict still out but read a lot of people converted were happy.



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    Re: Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    Every two years or so I develop death wobble. At first it's not too bad, but after a few months it gets to where I can't go over 50 unless it's a straight line. I don't offroad too much, probably twice a year, but I try to whoop it up when I go. I've got new 33s on it, and it's got a 2.5 inch suspension lift.

    The cause is usually something I can put my finger on - I can see the axle side trackbar bolt moving, or I can see play in a tie rod end. I've usually patched one thing at a time, and the blend of used components and new just causes the new to wear out faster - for example, replacing the trackbar, but not the draglink.

    Once I replace the tie rod ends it normally drives perfect for a year or so.


    Tell me more about your steering upgrade, it sounds interesting.
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    Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    The Jury is still out on this upgrade for me. It went on back in Aug. And since then Ive been needing a clutch and some help swapping it out. My helper will be back in town soon. So the upgrade has minimal miles on it. Prior was stock replacement components. For DW.

    The upgrade is stock for a cherokee and used solid bars in place of tubing. It is a drop in replacement.

    Beyond that i changed to JKS adj track bar to get rid of the axel being off center. I wish the JKS had two jamb nuts as mine loosened. I ended up using blue loc tite.


    Biggest improvement for me to get rid of the boat like roll when turning was the sway bar and links... but most of the entire suspension was changed.


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    Re: Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    Terry you're experiencing loose steering on your TJ.

    I'm again experiencing loose steering on my 2011 JK Sport 2.5 Iift, 265/70/17 tires, no death wobble.

    A couple months ago I bought the Rubicon Express 1683 track bar from 4WheelParts also had them install it. They told me that would take care of the loose steering. It did for awhile but it's back. What am I missing?

    What's your take on loose steering and what causes it?Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts-rubiconexpress-1683.jpeg

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    Re: Time to redo my TJ steering again - looking for opinions on these parts

    Check that the bolts ate tight. Perform a dry steer test. Be sure your caster is 5-8*


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