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    Angry You Gotta Be Kidding Me......

    So, the courts upheld Scooter Libby's conviction and ruled that he be sent to prison to serve out his sentence for exposing the identity of Valerie Plame, which, in essence, could have been a death sentence for her. But, the worthless ****ing sack of ****, Dubya Bush, has commuted his sentence. I've read several articles from both sides of the political fence, conservative and liberal, Democrat and Republican, and one word seems to be peppered throughout all of them: corruption. And I agree.

    This ranks right up there with Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon, only I see it as a far worse travesty of justice and abuse of office. By exposing her identity, Libby pushed her out of cover and into the crosshairs of hitmen around the globe. Not just her, but her family as well. What he did can be construed as attempted murder. Yet it's not just the violation of Valerie Plame that has me up in arms, it's the violation of our National Security. By exposing Plame, Libby put other operatives at risk, and with them tomes of information the revelation of which could be fatal to our country had those operatives been compromised as well.

    That Dubya can overlook the perils of that transgression by Libby, and think only of his own political career and that of a friend is also a blatant rape of our most sacred office. The molestation of our legal system, even at the highest levels, confirms to me, and I'm guessing a vast majority of my fellow Americans, a genuine disregard for the morals and values this country was founded on. Furthermore, it reveals a condescending apathy towards the people who elected him. I surmise from that "Get Out of Jail Free Card" that he passed along, we can plainly see where Dubya's loyalties lie. Apparently, they do not lie with his country.

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    what did Libby get convicted of, lying to prosecutors..?
    Isn't that what they put Martha Stewart in for?

    Seems like thats that they go for more and more these days.
    The investigators can lie their arse off to you and tell you everyone else is squealing on you in order to get you to talk and it's ok, but you lie to them and it's jail for you. That part of it, I don't think is right.

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    There are dirtbags on both sides of the political aisle. Although the war on terror must be fought, there are still people in this country who believe it is President Bush that brought down the World Trade Center I do not agree with everything the Pres has done, but I DO like dead terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Xjay View Post
    what did Libby get convicted of, lying to prosecutors..?
    Isn't that what they put Martha Stewart in for?

    Seems like thats that they go for more and more these days.
    The investigators can lie their arse off to you and tell you everyone else is squealing on you in order to get you to talk and it's ok, but you lie to them and it's jail for you. That part of it, I don't think is right.
    There are always two sides to every story Sparky.

    March 7, 2007 -- Democrats and Bush-bashers in the media are chortling with glee, and special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has a high-level scalp on his belt.

    Scooter Libby's.

    Thus ends (pending appeals) a 38-month investigation into the so-called Plamegate case.

    Despite the jury's guilty verdict yesterday on four of five counts, it's fair to say that Fitzgerald added nothing to what was well known about the question that ostensibly prompted this probe in the first place: Who leaked CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson's name to columnist Robert Novak?

    The answer, as Fitzgerald knew for three years, was then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage - in an off-hand conversation, not a leak.

    And since Armitage was a critic of the Iraq war, that pretty much shot down any suggestion that the White House had deliberately sought to "out" Plame in order to sabotage her husband's public criticism of Bush's Iraq policy.

    So what was this all about?

    Scoring points against Bush.

    That much is obvious, given prosecutor Fitzgerald's conduct during Libby's trial.

    It's not just that his closing argument was blatantly political, charging that Libby's boss, Vice President **** Cheney, had orchestrated the leak of Plame's name in order to discredit her husband.

    In fact, Fitzgerald throughout the case seemed to violate a central rule set down by the judge: Valerie Plame Wilson's actual status at the CIA was wholly irrelevant to the charges against Libby. Whether or not she was a covert agent - meaning disclosure of her name might be a crime - didn't matter.

    Yet Fitzgerald broadly suggested that Libby had been "discussing something . . . that could lead to people being killed."

    Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid was quick to hail yesterday's verdict, saying: "It's about time someone in the Bush administration has been held accountable for the campaign to manipulate intelligence and discredit war critics."

    But nothing at the trial even hinted at the administration having manipulated intelligence.

    In the end, the jury seemed wholly confused by the case. Indeed, just an hour before delivering its verdict, after 10 days of deliberations, the jurors were sending out notes trying to figure out precisely what Libby was accused of having done.

    Maybe the jury was less interested in that little detail than in just going home.

    Taken at face value, the verdict means that the jury refused to believe Scooter Libby's claim of having a bad memory - though the witnesses against him all showed equally bad, even conflicting, recollections about the same event.

    Libby's lawyers yesterday confidently predicted he'll be vindicated on appeal.

    He shouldn't have to wait.

    President Bush should make things right - by pardoning Libby.

    Sure, he'd take a lot of political heat for it. But Libby was in the dock because of politics - and turnabout is fair play.

    Free Scooter Libby.


    So when it was Bill and Hillary and their "I do not recall" that's believable but when Scooter does it we get the "He's LYING, crucify him!"

    Kind of a double standard there isn't it?

    Not that I want to defend W at this point. After the immigration crap he's been pushing he's no friend of mine.

    If our politicians would actually try to run the country instead of playing "gotcha!" with each other we might not be watching the decline of our great nation.

    The GOP and the DNC are both 99% bottom feeding scum. The right and left can continue going tit for tat as long as they want. Both sides are rife with corruption and by focusing on the horrible GOP or the terrible DNC they give the public bread and circuses so the people don't notice that these dirtbags have run our country into the ground.
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    Re: You Gotta Be Kidding Me......

    What really burns me is that dumb b***h Paris Hilton only had to serve half her original sentance. I mean come on! If we're going to start handing out pardons for acts against national security........

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    I'm thinking a commuted sentence means Libby won't be telling what he knows.


    The only word that comes to my mind is...........impeachment. Unfortunately, there's not enough time left in his term - nobody's going to try it. Just heard on the news that ol' "W" has the lowest approval rating in history (mind you, they probably didn't start tracking that 'til the late 20th century).

    He's worried me since day one (which I believe I stated here)...........my mind hasn't changed.
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    Lest we forget President Clinton's Pardon(s)

    ALLEN, Verla Jean Everton, Arkansas False statements to agency of United States
    ALTIERE, Nicholas M. Las Vegas, Nevada Importation of cocaine
    ALTSCHUL, Bernice Ruth Sherman Village, California Conspiracy to commit money laundering
    ANDERSON, Joe, Jr. Grove Hill, Alabama Income tax evasion
    ANDERSON, William Sterling Spartanburg, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured financial institution, false statements to a federally insured financial institution, wire fraud
    AZIZKHANI, Mansour T. Huntsville, Alabama Conspiracy and making false statements in bank loan applications
    BABIN, Cleveland Victor, Jr. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Conspiracy to commit offense against the United States by utilizing the U.S. mail in furtherance of a scheme to defraud
    BAGLEY, Chris Harmon Harrah, Oklahoma Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine
    BANE, Scott Lynn Mahomet, Illinois Unlawful distribution of marijuana
    BARBER, Thomas Cleveland Hampton, Florida Issuing worthless checks
    BARGON, Peggy Ann Monticello, Illinois Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act
    BHATKA, Tansukhlal Income tax evasion
    BLAMPIED, David Roscoe Ketchum, Idaho Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
    BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. Washington, D.C. Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery
    BOREL, Arthur David Little Rock, Arkansas Odometer rollback
    BOREL, Douglas Charles Conway, Arkansas Odometer rollback
    BRABHAM, George Thomas Austin, Texas Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank
    BRASWELL, Almon Glenn Doravilla, Georgia Conspiracy to defraud government with respect to claims; perjury
    BROWDER, Leonard Aiken, South Carolina Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud
    BROWN, David Steven New York, New York Securities fraud and mail fraud
    BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson Hanna, Oklahoma Possession of marijuana
    BUSTAMANTE, John H. Cleveland, Ohio Wire fraud
    CAMPBELL, Mary Louise Ruleville, Mississippi Aiding and abetting the unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps
    CANDELARIA, Eloida False information in registering to vote
    CAPILI, Dennis Sobrevinas Glendale, California Filing false statements in alien registration
    CHAMBERS, Donna Denise Memphis, Tennessee Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine, possession with intent to distribute cocaine, use of a telephone to facilitate cocaine conspiracy
    CHAPMAN, Douglas Eugene Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
    CHAPMAN, Ronald Keith Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
    CHAVEZ, Francisco Larios Santa Ana, California Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens
    CISNEROS, Henry G.
    CLINTON, Roger
    COHN, Stuart Harris New Haven, Connecticut 1. Illegal sale of gold options

    2. Illegal sale of silver options
    COOPER, David Marc Wapakoneta, Ohio Conspiracy to defraud the government
    COX, Ernest Harley, Jr. Pine Bluff, Arkansas Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured savings and loan, misapplication of bank funds, false statements
    CROSS, John F., Jr. Little Rock, Arkansas Embezzlement by a bank employee
    CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee Amarillo, Texas Possession with intent to distribute marijuana
    DE LABIO, Richard Anthony Baltimore, Maryland Mail fraud, aiding and abetting
    DEUTCH, John Described in January 19, 2001 information
    DOUGLAS, Richard False statements
    DOWNE, Edward Reynolds Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion; securities fraud
    DUDLEY, Marvin Dean Omaha, Nebraska False statements
    DUNCAN, Larry Lee Branson, Missouri Altering an automobile odometer
    FAIN, Robert Clinton Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
    FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio Miami, Florida Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
    FERROUILLET, Alvarez Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering, false statements
    FUGAZY, William Denis Harrison, New York Perjury in a bankruptcy proceeding
    GEORGE, Lloyd Reid Mail fraud
    GOLDSTEIN, Louis Las Vegas, Nevada Possession of goods stolen from interstate shipment
    GORDON, Rubye Lee Tampa, Florida Forgery of U.S. Treasury checks
    GREEN, Pincus Switzerland
    HAMNER, Robert Ivey Searcy, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
    HANDLEY, Samuel Price Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
    HANDLEY, Woodie Randolph Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
    HARMON, Jay Houston Jonesboro, Arkansas 1. Conspiracy to import marijuana, conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, importation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute

    2. Conspiracy to import cocaine
    HEMMINGSON, John Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering
    HERDLINGER, David S. St. Simons Island, Georgia Mail fraud
    HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae Ogden, Utah Distribution of methamphetamine
    JAMES, Donald Ray Fairfield Bay, Arkansas Mail fraud, wire fraud, and false statement to a bank to influence credit approval
    JOBE, Stanley Pruet El Paso, Texas Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and bank fraud
    JOHNSON, Ruben H. Austin, Texas Theft and misapplication of bank funds by a bank officer or director
    JONES, Linda Conspiracy to commit bank fraud and other offenses against the United States
    LAKE, James Howard Illegal corporate campaign contributions, wire fraud
    LEWIS, June Louise Lowellville, Ohio Embezzlement by a bank employee
    LEWIS, Salim Bonnor Short Hills, New Jersey Securities fraud, record keeping violations, margin violations
    LODWICK, John Leighton Excelsior Springs, Missouri Income tax evasion
    LOPEZ, Hildebrando San Isidro, Texas Distribution of cocaine
    LUACES, Jose Julio Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Possession of an unregistered firearm
    MANESS, James Timothy Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance
    MANNING, James Lowell Little Rock, Arkansas Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
    MARTIN, John Robert Gulf Breeze, Florida Income tax evasion
    MARTINEZ, Frank Ayala Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
    MARTINEZ, Silvia Leticia Beltran Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
    McCORMICK, John Francis Dedham, Massachusetts Racketeering conspiracy, racketeering, and violation of the Hobbs act
    McDOUGAL, Susan H.
    MECHANIC, Howard Lawrence 1. Violating the Civil Disobedience Act of 1968

    2. Failure to appear

    3. Making false statement in acquiring a passport
    MITCHELL, Brook K., Sr. Conspiracy to illegally obtain USDA subsidy payments, false statements to USDA, and false entries on USDA forms
    MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
    MORISON, Samuel Loring Crofton, Maryland Willful transmission of defense information, unauthorized possession and retention of defense information, theft of government property
    NAZZARO, Richard Anthony Winchester, Massachusetts Perjury and conspiracy to commit mail fraud
    NOSENKO, Charlene Ann Phoenix, Arizona Conspiracy to defraud the United States, and influencing or injuring an officer or juror generally
    OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond Belleville, Illinois Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, distribution of cocaine, and using a communications facility to facilitate distribution of cocaine
    OGALDE, Miguelina Glendale, California Conspiracy to import cocaine
    OWEN, David C. Olathe, Kansas Filing a false tax return
    PALMER, Robert W. Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to make false statements
    PERHOSKY, Kelli Anne Bridgeville, Pennsylvania Conspiracy to commit mail fraud
    PEZZOPANE, Richard H. Palo Heights, Illinois Conspiracy to commit racketeering, and mail fraud
    PHILLIPS, Orville Rex Waco, Texas Unlawful structure of a financial transaction
    POLING, Vinson Stewart, Jr. Baldwin, Maryland Making a false bank entry, and aiding and abetting
    PROUSE, Norman Lyle Conyers, Georgia Operating or directing the operation of a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol
    PRUITT, Willie H. H., Jr. Port Richey, Florida Absent without official leave
    PURSLEY, Danny Martin, Sr. Goodlettsville, Tennessee Aiding and abetting the conduct of an illegal gambling business, and obstruction of state laws to facilitate illegal gambling
    RAVENEL, Charles D. Charleston, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud the United States
    RAY, William Clyde Altus, Oklahoma Fraud using a telephone

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    REGALADO, Alfredo Luna Pharr, Texas Failure to report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States
    RICAFORT, Ildefonso Reynes Houston, Texas Submission of false claims to Veterans Administration
    RICH, Marc Switzerland
    RIDDLE, Howard Winfield Mt. Crested Butte, Colorado Violation of the Lacey Act (receipt of illegally imported animal skins)
    RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. Possession of cocaine with intent to distribute
    ROBBINS, Samuel Lee Cedar Park, Texas Misprision of a felony
    RODRIGUEZ, Joel Gonzales Houston, Texas Theft of mail by a postal employee
    ROGERS, Michael James McAllen, Texas Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
    ROSS, Anna Louise Lubbock, Texas Distribution of cocaine
    RUST, Gerald Glen Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
    RUST, Jerri Ann Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
    RUTHERFORD, Bettye June Albuquerque, New Mexico Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
    SANDS, Gregory Lee Sioux Falls, South Dakota Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
    SCHWIMMER, Adolph Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to export arms and ammunition to a foreign country and related charges
    SERETTI, Albert A., Jr. McKees Rocks, Pennyslvania Conspiracy and wire fraud
    SHAW, Patricia Campbell Hearst Wilton, Connecticut Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony
    SMITH, Dennis Joseph Redby, Minnesota 1. Unauthorized absence

    2. Failure to obey off-limits instructions

    3. Unauthorized absence
    SMITH, Gerald Owen Florence, Mississippi Armed bank robbery
    SMITH, Stephen A.
    SPEAKE, Jimmie Lee Breckenridge, Texas Conspiracy to possess and utter counterfeit $20 Federal Reserve notes
    STEWART, Charles Bernard Sparta, Georgia Illegally destroying U.S. Mail
    STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca Euclid, Ohio Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
    SYMINGTON, John Fife, III
    TANNEHILL, Richard Lee Reno, Nevada Conspiracy and restraint of trade
    TENAGLIA, Nicholas C. Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania Receipt of illegal payments under the Medicare program
    THOMAS, Gary Allen Lancaster, Texas Theft of mail by postal employee
    TODD, Larry Weldon Gardendale, Texas Conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S. in violation of the Lacey Act and the Airborne Hunting Act
    TREVINO, Olga C. Converse, Texas Misapplication by a bank employee
    VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious Exeter, New Hampshire Possession of cocaine
    VAN DE WEERD, Patricia A. Tomahawk, Wisconsin Theft by a U.S. Postal employee
    WADE, Christopher V.
    WARMATH, Bill Wayne Walls, Mississippi Obstruction of correspondence
    WATSON, Jack Kenneth Oakridge, Oregon Making false statements of material facts to the U.S. Forest Service
    WEBB, Donna Lynn Panama City, Florida False entry in savings and loan record by employee
    WELLS, Donald William Phenix City, Alabama Possession of an unregistered firearm
    WENDT, Robert H. Kirkwood, Missouri Conspiracy to effectuate the escape of a federal prisoner
    WILLIAMS, Jack L. Making false statements to federal agents
    WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur Omaha, Nebraska Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute crack cocaine
    WILLIAMS, Robert Michael Davison, Michigan Conspiracy to transport in foreign commerce securities obtained by fraud
    WILSON, Jimmie Lee Helena, Arkansas Converting property mortgaged or pledged to a farm credit agency, and converting public money to personal use
    WINGATE, Thelma Louise Sale City, Georgia Mail fraud
    WOOD, Mitchell Couey Sherwood, Arkansas Conspiracy to possess and to distribute cocaine
    WOOD, Warren Stannard Las Vegas, Nevada Conspiracy to defraud the United States by filing a false document with the Securities and Exchange Commission
    WORTHEY, Dewey Conway, Arkansas Medicaid fraud
    YALE, Rick Allen Belleville, Illinois Bank fraud
    YASAK, Joseph A. Chicago, Illinois Knowingly making under oath a false declaration regarding a material fact before a grand jury
    YINGLING, William Stanley Interstate transportation of stolen vehicle
    YOUNG, Phillip David Little Rock, Arkansas Interstate transportation and sale of fish and wildlife

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    Re: You Gotta Be Kidding Me......

    That's all just dandy, 90, but this thread ain't about Clinton. If you wanna b1tch about him, start your own thread.

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    ................impeach.......................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky-Watts View Post
    That's all just dandy, 90, but this thread ain't about Clinton. If you wanna b1tch about him, start your own thread.
    No Sparky, I just wanted to show that most every president makes pardons and sentence commutations.

    The real thing about the Libby deal is that the guy who actually leaked the name of the CIA agent is still walking around free. Libby was only found guilty of lying.
    And they gave him, 30 freaking months for that? Come on. The whole case was politically motivated and the prosecutor wanted to bring down some of Bush's cronies.

    I think Bush should have pardoned Libby, but the moron screws around with a commuted sentence, Bush can't even do a pardon all the way and get that right, the idot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Xjay View Post
    .............Bush can't even do a pardon all the way and get that right, the idot.
    ...............impeach!!.................

    let's get the embarrassment over with!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mud4feet View Post
    ...............impeach!!.................

    let's get the embarrassment over with!
    what good would impeaching him do at this point and what would be the grounds for it?

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    There are no substantial grounds to impeach him, and there never were. If there were they would have done it long ago.

    Scooter Libby was Mark Rich's attorney. That prosecutor has a personal vendetta against him and although Bush has really ****ed me off throughout the last year or so, I think it was not totally unwarranted to do what he did for Libby.

    As for the Clinton post from 90XJay, Sparky the point he was making was that Clinton pardoned some real dirtbags, and we never heard a peep from you. It only further shows that you take any chance you have to complain about Bush. There are much more pertinent issues at hand today, and if you want to bash Bush there are bigger, more disturbing issues like the TREASONOUS immigration bill that him, McCain, and thet drunk Ted Kennedy tried to slam us with.

    My point (and obviously 90's as well) is that the use of pardons and this sort of executive privilege has been used and abused by second term presidents since the beginning, and if you want to make it seem as an outlandish exception or be surprised by it you are only kidding yourself.

    It won't be his last, hopefully he won't pardon all the illegals and hopefully he will not follow Clinton's footsteps. Old Slick Willie took pardoning to a whole new level. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush did it too, or worse, one-upped him by going even further.

    They both suck.

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    TC, the reason you never heard a peep out of me when Clinton pardoned anyone is that I was not a member of this board when Clinton was president. I'm not one to start a thread and say, "OMG, look what President Taft did about social reform!!!". What erked me about 90's post is that no matter what is said about what Bush does today, you or he always come back with a slam against Clinton, or a slam against Dems in general. Instead of intelligently discussing the topic of the thread, you turn it into a political debate about the evils of the Democrats.

    I don't give a **** about who Clinton pardoned 8 years ago, nor do I give a **** about who Bush pardoned last month. This thread is about Bush's commutation of the sentence of a very dangerous man this week, and that it was done solely for political, if not monetary, gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky-Watts View Post
    a very dangerous man
    So, a 30 month sentence would have made us all safer? Gimme a break... dangerous. That's laughable.

    Like I said, I am not exactly fond of "W" right now. As a matter of fact I'm disgusted with him, but it is of my opinion that this issue is neither a big deal, nor should discussion of it take precedence over the more pertinent matters at hand.

    You cant change it and it is far from being grounds for impeachment. Anything else is just needless whining.

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    Ok,.. so from now on if someone makes a comment about anything, nobody is allowed to post any example of a similar or contrasting anything for comparison?


    Allrighty then..

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    so what was it that Libby did that was so horrible again???
    OH, he LIED.

    So BUSH is wrong for not making a man serve a prison sentence for lying, and the left is crying foul about that. The same people who praised Clinton for "coming clean" and admitting that he lied.

    Yeah, I sure don't see a double standard there.

    If ya'll want to bash Bush, bash his amnesty deal. Easy target, 80% of the US was against it, and he is still trying to push it through.

    Sparky, could you tell me why it is that you think Scooter Libby is "dangerous"?

    Libby was NOT the one who leaked the info. Did you understand that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCopper View Post
    So, a 30 month sentence would have made us all safer? Gimme a break... dangerous. That's laughable.

    Like I said, I am not exactly fond of "W" right now. As a matter of fact I'm disgusted with him, but it is of my opinion that this issue is neither a big deal, nor should discussion of it take precedence over the more pertinent matters at hand.

    You cant change it and it is far from being grounds for impeachment. Anything else is just needless whining.
    Nobody's making you read or respond to this thread, so why don't you just move on if that's your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90Xjay View Post
    Ok,.. so from now on if someone makes a comment about anything, nobody is allowed to post any example of a similar or contrasting anything for comparison?


    Allrighty then..
    Yeah, 90, that's exactly what I said.

    What is it about you and TC that gets you both so mad you act like children when someone says anything negative about Bush? This post and TC's post above are prime examples of the behavior this board has come to expect and regret when any discussion goes against your way of thinking. Your post about all of Clinton's pardons had absolutely nothing to do with the original topic, nor in any way did it do anything constructive to debate the original topic. It was posted solely to take the focus off of Bush's actions by pointing out something someone else did years ago. If you have something topical and relevant to say as to why you don't agree with my post or why you don't think Libby should go to jail, then fine, go ahead and post it. But just two long lists of people pardoned by Clinton do neither. If you're not just doing it to bash Clinton, why didn't you mention any of the other pardons given by Bush or by any other president? Again, you and TC's childish behavior has given me a reminder of why I took a vacation from this board the last time, and I guess it's time to do so again. That's a shame, too, because I enjoy pretty much all but two people here and if those two people would take a permanent vacation from here, this board would have a lot more members. So, take a hint.
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