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    My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    I just joined up a few days ago because I was jeep shopping. Well, I bought a 2010 Rubicon Unlimited yesterday. I was a happy guy! Then I get home from work today and smell a bad smell. Long story short I have both front axles leaking pretty bad. They had replaced the ball joints before I picked it up yesterday. Iím guessing when they put the axles back in the screwed up the seals. I have owned a 2000 Grand Cherokee for years so I know what a big job it is to change these seals. I have a 6 month/4500 mile warranty. I have called the dealership and they promised me I donít need to worry they are going to repair it. It made me feel about 50% better than I did. It just sucks. So Saturday Iím going to let aaa tow it back to the dealership and I figure it will be days before I get the Jeep back. Iím trying to look at the positives...Atleast the seals will be new. It still sucks.

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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Is there any other common problems with these that I need to pay close attention to while I still have time left on the warranty? Ive been a mechanic for 12 years so I’m not clueless about cars. But we don’t have a ton of wranglers come in our shop. Any thoughts or advice would be really appreciated. Thanks!

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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Hang in there man, I would suggest using it offroad a time or two before that warranty wears off just to shake down for anything else that might need replaced.

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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    I was tempted to do that. But they did tell me any off-roading would void my warranty. I was going to take it to the local Jeep dealership this weekend to let them check out everything. I was especially wanting things like the lockers and the sway bar disconnect checked since I really didnít know how to check it myself. But it doesnít look like Iíll be driving it this weekend. I love this damn thing and I wouldnít even mind having to do some small stuff myself. I just want to make sure the big stuff is right. Atleast Iíll still have 4400 miles to drive it before the warranty is gone. Hopefully any big problems will show it before then. I hadnít even got to take the top off yet damn it!

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    My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    WT ?? Off roading in a jeep voids the warranty? Is that in writing?
    Iíd wheel it, because they maybe hiding something like transfer case issues...



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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Quote Originally Posted by JPNinPA View Post
    WT ?? Off roading in a jeep voids the warranty? Is that in writing?
    If not wheel it cause they maybe hiding something like transfer case issues...


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    Well thatís possible. Which, being a mechanic, I can kinda understand the thinking. Someone that doesnít know what the are doing could very easily get out on some trail and mess up the transmission of clutch. But you never know with used car dealers. I have had it in 4hi and 4 low. I am planning on having the Jeep dealership check out the automatic lockers in the front and back. I tried the sway bar disconnect and the light seemed to do what itís suppose to. Although Iím not 100% sure how to know if itís working right. Hence why I plan on getting it to the Jeep dealership.


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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    If you have a dirt road or gravel parking lot near you you can go there and throw it in 4wd and disconnect the swaybars. Just drive it around a bit. You'll notice that when in 4wd the steering is different (it'll want to pull in a straight line, or just generally feel different). That's normal.
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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryMason View Post
    If you have a dirt road or gravel parking lot near you you can go there and throw it in 4wd and disconnect the swaybars. Just drive it around a bit. You'll notice that when in 4wd the steering is different (it'll want to pull in a straight line, or just generally feel different). That's normal.
    Iíve already had it in 4hi and 4 low and know they work ok. I was more concerned about the automatic lockers. I donít really understand how they work. I did turn them on and the lights acted like they worked correctly. Iíll try it out some more when I get it back. Im sure they will have it a few days. Changing those seals is a pretty big job. You have to pull the whole differential out.


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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    There is no way to enforce that clause. First, off roading is vague. A dirt road IS a road, just not paved, and certainly is not off road.

    It sounds like you bought at a real winner of a dealership.

    Anyway, as others have noted, get the Jeep onto a DIRT ROAD and run in 2wd, 4wd high, and 4wd low, and go forward and back. Make sure the shift from 2wd to 4wd high is smooth, then from 4wd high to 2wd. Then test out shifting to 4wd low....that can sometimes be tricky if you are not used to it. For my Jeep, coasting in neutral on the trans about 1 mph, I can easily shift from 4wd high to 4wd low in one continuous smooth pull, and the same going the other direction...it helps to be going in a straight line. Do NOT pause in neutral on the transfer case...if you do, you may need to completely stop and shut down to make the shift.

    I'd do a complete fluid change, radiator, trans, transfer, power steering, brake flush, axels, etc....that way you know what you have going on. I'd bet you dollars to donuts when they fix your seals they will salvage and reuse the axel fluid, so I'd change that too after they get done. IMO, OEM fluids or equals are the way to go.
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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepergeo View Post
    There is no way to enforce that clause. First, off roading is vague. A dirt road IS a road, just not paved, and certainly is not off road.

    It sounds like you bought at a real winner of a dealership.

    Anyway, as others have noted, get the Jeep onto a DIRT ROAD and run in 2wd, 4wd high, and 4wd low, and go forward and back. Make sure the shift from 2wd to 4wd high us smooth, then from 4wd high to 2wd. Then test out shifting to 4wd low....that can sometimes be tricky if you are not used to it. For my Jeep, coasting in neutral on the trans about 1 mph, I can easily shift from 4wd high to 4wd low in one continuous smooth pull, and the same going the other direction...it helps to be going in a straight line. Do NOT pause in neutral on the transfer case...if you do, you may need to completely stop and shut down to make the shift.

    I'd do a complete fluid change, radiator, trans, transfer, power steering, brake flush, axels, etc....that way you know what you have going on. I'd bet you dollars to donuts when they fix your seals they will say age and reuse the axel fluid, so I'd change that after they get done. IMO, OEM fluids or equals are the way to go.
    Yeah again Iíve already tried out 4hi and 4lo. I did that before I ever bought it. My main concern as far as that goes is the lockers. I guess Iíll just get it in the field behind my house and turn both the lockers on and see what happens.


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    Re: My Jeep ownership is off to a rough start...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepergeo View Post
    There is no way to enforce that clause. First, off roading is vague. A dirt road IS a road, just not paved, and certainly is not off road.

    It sounds like you bought at a real winner of a dealership.

    Anyway, as others have noted, get the Jeep onto a DIRT ROAD and run in 2wd, 4wd high, and 4wd low, and go forward and back. Make sure the shift from 2wd to 4wd high us smooth, then from 4wd high to 2wd. Then test out shifting to 4wd low....that can sometimes be tricky if you are not used to it. For my Jeep, coasting in neutral on the trans about 1 mph, I can easily shift from 4wd high to 4wd low in one continuous smooth pull, and the same going the other direction...it helps to be going in a straight line. Do NOT pause in neutral on the transfer case...if you do, you may need to completely stop and shut down to make the shift.

    I'd do a complete fluid change, radiator, trans, transfer, power steering, brake flush, axels, etc....that way you know what you have going on. I'd bet you dollars to donuts when they fix your seals they will say age and reuse the axel fluid, so I'd change that after they get done. IMO, OEM fluids or equals are the way to go.
    I guess since Iíve been a mechanic for so long I am more understanding about them telling me not to go off roaring during the warranty. For one thing like the one guy said, itís not like they would be able to tell, so your pretty much on the honor system anyway. Iíve seen what people can do to cars so I think the point is the warranty is suppose to make you feel like you bought it in good condition. Someone that hasnít been off-roading much could do a lot of damage in one trip if they didnít know how to drive...clutch, transfer cases...But yeah anyway


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