The Jeep Wave

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Definition: The Jeep Wave
An honor bestowed upon those drivers with the superior intelligence, taste, class, and discomfort tolerance to own the ultimate vehicle - the Jeep. Generally consists of vigorous side-to-side motion of one or both hands, but may be modified to suit circumstances and locally accepted etiquette.


Examples of commonly accepted modifications:
Top off: One handed wave above windshield or outside body tub
Top off during blizzard: Shiver and nod, hands may remain frozen to steering wheel
Southern/rural locations: Raise fingers from steering wheel, nod
It's not what you buy, it's what you build and what you do with it.
In keeping with this cardinal rule of Jeeping, categories have been established to account for each part of the equation.

These categories are:

The Jeep Waving Hierarchy: Based on the vehicle itself. Takes into account the nostalgia factor, the discomfort tolerance quotient, and the amount of owner dedication required to maintain the steed.
The Modifying Sub-categories: Based on what you do with your Jeep.
Equipment Adjustments: What you build.


General Rules:
1. All Jeepers are responsible for upholding the tradition of the Wave. Upon contact with a higher scoring Jeep, a Jeeper is required to initiate the Wave, and continue the Wave until:
a. The Wave is returned
b. The Wave is blatantly disregarded
c. The higher scoring vehicle has passed by and is out of sight

2. All Jeepers are required to return the Wave, unless the initiating vehicle clearly has a negative (below 0) score.

3. All Jeepers are encouraged, but not required, to return the Wave to negative balance vehicles, and take any opportunity presented to guide and mentor them about their responsibilities to their Jeeps in the hopes that they can correct the error of their ways.

4. When unsure of status or wave requirements of a particular encounter, or unable to completely assess the other Jeep's score quickly enough to ensure that the proper Jeep Wave Etiquette rules are followed, immediately initiate wave. It is the spirit of waving that is most important so when in doubt:
Just Wave!



First, the Jeep Waving Hierarchy (JWH):
Category A - Pre-CJ (Willys/Kaiser/MB/etc): 30
Category B - Pre-AMC CJ: 27
Category C - CJ: 25
Category D - Commando: 20
Category E - YJ: 16
Category F - TJ: 15
Category G - Cherokee, Wagoneer: 10
Category H - All other Jeeps: 5
Category I - All other 4WD vehicles EXCEPT yuppie Explorers: 0
Category J - All other vehicles

The Modifying Sub-Categories (MSCs):
(What you do with it)

MSC Guidelines:

1. MSCs must be considered during all Jeep encounters, and wave patterns must be adjusted accordingly.

2. MSC 5 is the median - the accepted norm.

3. MSCs from 1 through 4 will increase score as listed.

4. MSCs 6 and 7 will decrease score as listed.

MSC 1: Top off; vehicle, driver, and all occupants covered with mud: 30
MSC 2: Top partially off; vehicle and some occupants covered with Mud: 20
MSC 3: Top on; vehicle covered with mud: 10
MSC 4: Top off during snow, sleet, hail, or heavy rain: 5
MSC 5: Somewhat dirty: 0
MSC 6: Obviously recently washed, but immediately re-muddied a little: -10
MSC 7: Clean, dry, unscratched, untested: -30

Equipment Adjustments (EAs)
(What you build)

Consideration must be given to the current mechanical condition of the vehicle, including all modifications for trailworthiness, comfort, appearance, and spouse-appeasal. These are known as Equipment Adjustments (EAs). EAs are only granted after the work has been completed. We all have plans for EAs, but only the ones actually implemented can be scored.

EAs are a complicated category, and often difficult to appraise under certain conditions (passing head-to-head at 60 mph, when covered with mud, etc) but must be used to modify score when feasible. If a vehicle is so covered with mud that you are unable to ascertain any of the EAs, you MUST assume that the EAs, when combined with the MSC 1 adjustment, would place the vehicle in a higher scoring position than any non-MSC 1 Jeep, and immediately initiate the wave. Otherwise, EAs will adjust score as follows:

Engine:

Stock, Pre-CJ, Working Condition: 2
Stock, 8-cyl: 2
Stock, 6-cyl: 1
Stock, 4-cyl: 0
Replaced, 8-cyl: 3
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 4-cyl): 2
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 6-cyl): 0
Replaced, 6-cyl (replacing 8-cyl): -1
Replaced, 4-cyl: -1
Drivetrain Modifications:
Improved internal mechanical parts (crank/cam/etc): 2 each
Upgraded Transmission: NV4500 or Turbo400: 3, All others: 2
Upgraded Transfer Case: 2
Improved exterior mechanical parts (headers/manifolds/pumps/filters/etc): 1 each
Stone stock in a pre-1970 vehicle: 3 (for nostalgia and historical analysis)
All Comfort enhancements removed for more power: 2
Tires:
Stock or unremarkable: 0
Original Tires on Pre-CJ: 2
Slightly oversized (up to 31"): 1
Over 31, with other appropriate mods: 2
Any size, currently covered with mud: 2
Working tires > 31" with original donut spare: -2
Low-profile: -10
Suspension:
Stock, Pre-CJ: 2 if driver can still walk after an hour in the saddle
Body lift: 1/inch
Suspension lift: 2/inch
Spring-Over Lift: 3
High-quality shocks: 2
Lowered: -20
Other accessories/conditions:
Winch, heavy-duty, obviously used: 2
Winch, heavy-duty, use unclear: 1
Other winch, obviously used: 1
Little, chrome-covered, toy winch: -1
Lockers: 2
Upgraded axles: 1
Upgraded transfer case: 1
Each chrome accessory currently shiny: -1
Each neon accessory: -2
Fire extinguishers: 1
Block and Tackle, anchors, etc: 2
Ropes, straps, tow chains: 1
Tow Hooks: 1
Nerf Bars/Rock Rails, used and scarred: 2
Nerf Bars, shiny, no scars: -1
Heavy duty bash/skid plates: 1
Other protective plating (diamond plate, etc): 2 if scarred, -2 if unscarred
Extra fuel tanks/oversize fuel tanks: 1
External Gear Carrying Rack: 1
Multi disc-CD Player: -1
More than one subwoofer: -1 each
First Aid Kit: 1
Backpack, food, emergency gear (just in case): 2
On-board air compressor: 1
On-board Welder: 2
Girly, shiny chrome center caps: -1
Krylon home-made paint job: 1 (for realizing it's just going to happen again)
Blackout Headlight Covers: -1
Any little flippy interior vanity mirrors: -1
Children in vehicle: 1/each (for proper training/indoctrination), 2 if muddy, an immediate correction if not belted in.
EARNED trip stickers/badges/etc: 1/each
Unearned stickers/badges/etc: -2/each
Stickers advertising for other than 4wd-related businesses: -2 (except No Fear: -5)
MSC 1 vehicle in corporate lot sharing with neighbor vehicles: 1 per vehicle decorated
Correct mental attitude, seen or proven: 3
Windshield down: 1 ( 2 if raining/snowing)
Bugs left on face/teeth as evidence of recent windshield down driving: 1 ( 2 if more than a week old)
CB radio or other communication tool (for emergency only): 1
Hi-Lift Jack: 2
Flexible caulking to fill leaks and body damage: 2
Dogs as passengers, properly secured: 1 (sharing the joy of Jeeping)
Bringing a new Jeeper into the Family: 5
Extra Lighting, used for night-wheeling, not pastel or neon colored: 1/ea
Original military machine gun on Category A Jeep: 30
Battle Scars:
Mashed hood, top, etc., obviously from roll-over: 3
Holes above glove box where passenger ripped grab-bar out: 3
Heavily gouged rocker panels: 2
Bloody seats: 2
V-bent front bumper from being pulled out of that REALLY bad one: 2
Scarred sides from those mis-judged rocks: 1
Any small parking lot dent/scratch still identifiable: -1
Other accessories bent, folded, mangled or mutilated: 1, EXCEPT:
See above, but said item is owned by your spouse: 2
No scars whatsoever: -3 (Unless Pre-CJ restored, then: 3)
New body due to rust only: -5 (unless a rescue, see discussion below)
New body due to damage: Previous damage points carry over (see discussion below)
Fire Damage (bubbled paint, singed seats, etc): 2
Limbs, Shrubs, etc attached well enough to remain at highway speed: 1/each
 

I just wave to all SWB Jeeps and it's usually the fingers off the top of the steering wheel wave. Screw the points.
 
When I bought my first Jeep, 20 years ago :shock:, I remember the Jeep Wave. I'm glad it is still alive and well. I had a 1981 CJ-5 and back then, as well as now with my TJ, I'll stop somewhere and get gas and if there is another Jeep there we always end up talking about our rigs. It is really kinda cool the way total stangers that have Jeeps can sit and visit about them like they had been friends for a lifetime. 8)
 
Yeah I love that fact. Lately I've been waving to the Cherokees if they're built. They usually wave right back. Though I'm about to start givin up on the new Wranglers. Most of them haven't even looked in my direction when I wave.
 

Yeah, I've noticed that too. The 4 door jeep drivers rarely return the wave. I guess if we wave at them enough they'll get the hint.
 
You can always tell the newbies, the "do I know that guy" look gives them away.

I sometimes find myself waving when I'm in the work truck and wife's car - thats REALLY got to confuse them.
 
You can always tell the newbies, the "do I know that guy" look gives them away.

I sometimes find myself waving when I'm in the work truck and wife's car - thats REALLY got to confuse them.

Yeah, I do that all the time, too. Or I'll pull up next to someone at the pumps in the work truck and comment on their Jeep, which gets me funny looks until I mention mine, then it's like we're best of friends.

As far as the new Jeeps....nope, never ever get a wave from them, and I have been diligent in my waves to them. Actually, I rarely get any waves from TJ's unless they are modded in some way, but for the ones that still have stock rims and tires....it just rarely happens 'cause it's usually some spoiled rich kid whose mommy and daddy bought him a Jeep for graduation or something like that. Pretty sad, really.

And, as for the above mentioned hierarchy, screw that. There is no hierarchy among Jeepers. Whether you've got a heavily modded CJ7, a full restored military-style Willy's, or a stocker TJ, you're still a Jeeper and it doesn't matter who initiates the wave. Jeepers aren't that arrogant among other Jeepers, and any who are like that aren't true Jeepers.
 

Hmm. I was pondering this when I was denied a return wave by a new Jeep owner the other day. I think the hightened comfort and emenities of the new Jeep have attracted normally non-jeepers. We are seeing a generation of wanna bes who dont understand "the Jeep thing" or the Jeep wave. The Jeep wave is great test as to whether you have a wanna be or a real Jeeper with some money and a new toy. Now you got me all stirred up. LONG LIVE THE JEEP WAVE!
 
I noticed the same thing, no return wave from the new ones, two or four door. They act as if they don't see me, which could be the case sometimes, but I know for sure some have noticed my wave. I will keep it up since it's pretty much habit anyway.
 
I haven't got a wave back for months, even with some moderately modded jeeps. I guess there are too many people around here with enough money to just want a nice jeep so they can go off road "if they need too."
 

Where I live, there are tons of jeeps, all being driven by high school seniors. I think I'm the poorest person around...

There are 3 people that I see on a regular basis going to and from work that have some pretty sweet jeeps. 1 rubicon and 2 XJ's. I get waves from them almost everyday. Everyone else just looks at you like you're an idiot. So I don't count them as real jeepers.
 

I frequently give and recieve Jeep Waves when I'm driving my TJ, but sometimes people give me waves and I dont notice until it's too late to return the wave. :cry: Does that make me a bad Jeeper??

By the way, my fiancee thinks it's hilarious everytime she sees me waving to complete strangers.
 
.......................By the way, my fiancee thinks it's hilarious everytime she sees me waving to complete strangers.

Y'all must not be from the South......or from the country, anyway. I wave and get waves daily from total strangers drivin' everything you can think of......just a "country" thing, I guess.
 

Y'all must not be from the South......or from the country, anyway. I wave and get waves daily from total strangers drivin' everything you can think of......just a "country" thing, I guess.

Actually, we're both from small-town West Virginia.
 
Y'all must not be from the South......or from the country, anyway. I wave and get waves daily from total strangers drivin' everything you can think of......just a "country" thing, I guess.

Same thing here. You wave to everyone, because you either know them, or someone you know knows them. But not in Wichita. Nope. Gang bangers might mistake a friendly wave as an excuse to ventilate your head.:shock:
 
Used to live in Hutch. Ks. Always got the wave from the K.O.R.R. guys and even the Flatlanders. Here in Portland I've noticed little difference, other than the guys in the Libertys want to be in the game. Thats cool though, It's kinda like bringing your little brother to the game wihh you, or like the U.S. bringing Canada to the war. :lol:
 

Used to live out side of Fayettvile Arkansas everybody waves down there. Currantly we live in toledo ohio we dont do waves just the middle finger.
 
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