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    Different kind of YJ

    Well, here goes. This is probably going to upset some of you here, but I am turning my 1989 YJ into something it never was intended to be. Here in New York City, there are not any places to go off roading (so all of the lifted Jeeps you see here are all for show). There are a lot of people that enjoy drag racing, car shows, and cruise nights at various locations. I am one of those people. I was looking to build something that would be different. It had to have 4 seats, fun to drive, and short enough to park behind my other car in my driveway. One day when I was at a car show, I met someone that had a CJ with a small block Chevy engine in it, and it gave me an idea. A friend has a repair shop and offered me a lift to work on it, along with the help of his mechanics for welding and doing other major things that I couldn’t do. I took my Jeep in on December 9, 2008 for a simple drivetrain change. As I was leaving, my buddy came running up to me and mentioned to me that only a few bolts attach the body to the frame, and if we removed it we could clean up the chassis. I agreed, and my small rat-rod project mushroomed into a major frame off project. He knew I wanted to convert it to 2 wheel drive, and suggested that now would be the best time to do it (I planned on doing the suspension work in the second phase). Although I originally was going to use a Cherokee axle, another friend suggested going all out and using a straight front axle. I bought mine from Speedway Motors, complete with a 4 inch drop, disk brakes, etc. I had a 350 Turbo trans built by Select with reverse manual valve body and trans brake. Moon made my Ford 9 inch rear with 3.70 gears. The roll cage and suspension work is being done presently by Bobby Gardner at his shop in Hicksville, Long Island. The engine is 450 HP with timing gears, 10.5 compression, Crower cam, etc breathing through Advance fenderwell headers into cutouts (for easy noise) and Gibson round turbo mufflers.

    The first picture shows how it looked when I bought it for $400.
    From the side view, you can see that with the engine set back behind the front axle, this is truly a mid-engine vehicle.
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    Last edited by Lee3333; 01-19-2010 at 04:01 PM.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    OK, I am now totally convinced, you city boys are CRAZY!! But what the hail, at least some of you have good taste in vehicles!!

    That looks awesome, not how I did either of MY YJ's but good for what YOU need it for. Keep up the good work!!

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    We are crazy-that is why the owner of one shop said that this project is ridiculous. Hence, what I am naming it
    This is photoshopped, but I want to do it in the same font as the 'Wrangler' was on some of the special editions. And in the same color as the seatbelts. Note the 'un' in front of the Jeep lettering on the side panel.
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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    There are places to wheel at near NYC,but if its not your cup of tea thats fine.If you could have kept the 4 wheel drive it would have launched better on the take off.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    I just puked in my mouth a little.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by bobcat481 View Post
    I just puked in my mouth a little.
    I get that a lot. But the reality is, the Jeep makes a good platform for a race car. It has a solid frame and plenty of room for working on the engine. Plus, for street cruising it is perfect. With the top down and the doors off it will be a blast in the summer time. The full roll cage and 5 point harnesses for everybody will keep it safe. Since I lowered it to conventional car height, stability should not be a problem. But most importantly of all for me is that it is different. How can somebody build a Nova or Chevelle and have it stand out from the crowd at a car show? There are only so many different hood scoops or wheels you can get, and just about every conceivable combination has already been done a thousand times. But a Jeep....how many have you seen like mine? The most fun part about this project is that there is no exact recipe for what will fit or work, so it has taken a lot of thought, experimentation, and fabrication. I did not want to build a cookie-cutter car.

    Besides, if you read JP magazine, you will see some Jeeps set up for sand and ice racing. And if you really get down to the original intention of the Jeep, it was not designed for rock crawling or even off road use. It was meant to be a general purpose vehicle (GP) for the army.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    WOW

    SEE KIDS PICTURES DON'T LIE
    NOW WE GOT PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    ALL I OWN ARE JEEPS!

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Not my cup of tea but I don't hold it against you at all. I'm all for customization of any vehicle and I think you are doing a good job on it. Very cool.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by 54cj3b View Post
    WOW

    SEE KIDS PICTURES DON'T LIE
    NOW WE GOT PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Just for the record, my brother also lives in Colorado (Durango) and he has a conventional TJ, but out there he uses it off road. So we do have one normal Jeep in the family :) But mine is faster! And I think mine is more like something one would create on LSD, not crack.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by bobcat481 View Post
    I just puked in my mouth a little.
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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee3333 View Post
    How can somebody build a Nova or Chevelle and have it stand out from the crowd at a car show? There are only so many different hood scoops or wheels you can get, and just about every conceivable combination has already been done a thousand times.
    Here is a different way.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by xt master View Post
    You got me there. Actually I have seen a few of those around here also. Cute but not very functional.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    I like it. She looks pretty cool. I especially like the hood scoop.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    To each his own I guess but I puked a little too.

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    Well, I was hoping that my passengers would need a puke bag when I stepped on the gas. Seems like that is already happening to some of you and I havent even put it in first gear:)

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    I like.. Specs on teh SBC?


    If you are interested in Wheeling (obviously not this) Long Island Offroad (LIOR) is a great club down near you. they make a number of trips up to New England every year and are part of the NEA4WD which has a lot of private land that only we get to wheel.
    It used to be a jeep Thing,
    But all that stuff broke

    -Johnny-


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    This is the only mystery part of my project. The engine came from a good friends show car (a Malibu). He put less 1000 miles on it, just driving it from his house to local shows and cruise nights. The only reason he sold it was because he built a new supercharged motor. It was professionally built in PA and was in a car driven by the owners son. It was too fast for the new driver, and he wrecked the car. The owner didnt want to sell the motor to just anybody, and my buddy has a friend who is close to the builder and convinced him. But it was built about 8 years ago, and nobody remembers the exact details other than:

    1979 Truck 350/4 bolt mains
    Steel crank/polished connecting rods
    Manley .030 over pistons (Flat?)
    Fuelie double hump 2.02 heads
    Crower cam-525 lift/296 duration
    Timing gears (not chain) and it has a nice whine sound like a S/C motor

    It supposed to have 450 HP, and I will have it dynoed to see for sure. Once everything is set up in the Jeep, I can always pull it apart to modify or build another motor-swapping would be easy enough, especially the way I ran all of the wires and hoses. It should be good for the low 11's without any problem.

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    not for me, but its cool.
    So its old, beat up, and hasn't had a bath since 1980. It has character.

    The word "martyr" is just a fancy name for "crappy fighter"

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    I bet that'll be fun to drive, and definitely will be different from any other. Good for you on building what YOU wanted and not feel like you have to be one of the crowd.

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    Re: Different kind of YJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee3333 View Post
    Just for the record, my brother also lives in Colorado (Durango) and he has a conventional TJ, but out there he uses it off road. So we do have one normal Jeep in the family :) But mine is faster! And I think mine is more like something one would create on LSD, not crack.
    LSD is right, but it's different and that what counts. Not to shabby.

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