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[TwistedCU]

http://www.local6.com/news/4130302/detail.html

Kids (ages 9 and 10) drew this to freak out another kid:

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures....

....Ocala police said they stand behind the decision to arrest the children:
"When an adult or even myself look at the picture looked at it at first I was thinking there is really not much to the picture or I would not be that scared by the picture those children drew," Ocala police spokesman Russ Kearn said. "However, we have to put ourselves in his mind and that's the bottom line here. It is his well-being and the way he perceived that picture to be. It actually put him in extreme fear and he was in fear for his life."

These kids probably should have had to write out apologies, clean blackboards, etc., but arrested for felonies? :shock:

Nice, really nice. The land of the free, eh?

 

[_(OIIIIO)_Jeeper]

Re: Where Have Been a few Jeepz members?

Thats Insane!!!!..it said they were "special Ed" students. Probable didn't even register what they were doing.....

 

[mud4feet]

Homeland Security at it's finest.....

 

[Sully]

RE: Re: RE: Frankiefire

Wow they suck.

 

[TwistedCU]

I don't care if they did know what they were doing. As a matter of fact I'm sure they fully intended to torment the other kid, but they are kids and kids can be cruel. Doesn't make it right and they should have learned a lesson via some type of discipline, but hauling 2 young boys down to the station and charging them with federal crimes is just plain... I don't even know how to describe it - insanity?

It's not homeland Security, it is Ocala's local liberal whacko's and their socialist views that those boys should go to jail because they intentionally hurt someone's feelings. I guarantee there is not one single person that believed for one second those two boys actually wanted to stab that kid. Those boys were "mean spirited" and in a world where everyone is supposed to be equal (ah, you know - socialism) they needed to be made an example of and whipped into line and be good little subserviants. Little boys with no masculinity is what they desire. They'll probably drop the charges and put the kids on medicine :roll:

 

[Sparky-Watts]

RE: Old Jeep Commercial

Jeez, and to think of some of the things I did when I was in school. I can remember being in 9th grade and threatening to cut off the class nerd's ears with this 12" folding lockblade knife of my buddy's. No, we weren't serious, just kidding around with the guy. I'm sure he knew we were, too, and acted scared to play along with us. If I'd done that nowadays, I'd be in prison for many, many years to come! Heck, all the guys (and half the girls) in my 3rd grade class carried pocket knives to school, and by the time I was in high school, it wasn't unusual to see guys with big buck knives in sheaths hanging off their belts. Most of us had gun racks in our trucks, with at least one gun, and often 2 or 3. I read of an incident a few years ago at a local high school where a kid was hunting before school, left his shotgun LOCKED to the rack in his truck, and was arrested and charged with a couple of different felonies for having a firearm on school property. Sad, sad world we live in now. And now there's some crackhead gangbanger's family suing the cops in Wichita for wrongful death because they got in a pursuit with him in a stolen car, he crashed it and ran on foot, and somewhere along the way tried to swallow a couple ounces of coke, choked on it and died. And that's the cop's fault? One of these days, I'm going to go Charles Bronson and start taking these freaks out, one by one. Mark my words......

 

[Sparky-Watts]

Oh, yeah, in my 7th grade science class, I duck taped a bunch of batteries, kitchen timer, and wires to the underside of one of the lab tables out of boredom. They evacuated the school and sent in the bomb squad. Never confessed, and hope the statute of limitations has run out on that one.....there were no explosives, and I had no intention of scaring anyone, much less hurting anyone. It was just something to do that my buddy and I laughed about. Guess that whole Columbine thing has really put that sort of thing in a bad light.

 

[MudderChuck]

Like Barney Fife said "You have to nip it in the bud", but heck there seems to be a serious credibility gap, between reality and the liberal ideal.
Seems society is leaning towards a passive population. Think what they are gonna end up with, is the meek and the manic, with extreemes on both ends.

 

[mingez]

Freaking ridiculous... I'd have been in jail numerous times as a child if THAT kind of stuff will get you thrown into the clink.

I think the bigger crime here is that the picture sucks... parents really need to get more involved and teach their children how to draw a more realistic portrail of murder, and how if executed properly that it can be a much more effective tool in evoking fear in those you are trying to bully. -JK-

But as a child, if I cried about something like that to my dad, he'd have smacked me and told me to quit being a sissy. Welcome to the 'Wussificatioin" of our country folks!

 

[graewulf]

RE: is it drive line vibes?

zero tolerance strikes again! It is definitely time to do something about it, but until peolke are willing to make a stand nothing will change and these lunatics will still be in charge....

 

[judge09]

RE: Re: RE: Frankiefire

Oh man if these kids got arrested for drawing pictures I would have been given the chair for the things I use to do to my brother. And the things that were said between the neighborhood kids, we would have had a city wide lockdown in my neighborhood. Kids are kids, they test limits and push boundaries, smack them on the arse and send them to their room for a couple hours. Thats what worked on me when I was younger and I think I turned out ok.

 

[Saurian]

Pictures? PICTURES? I wish people drew pictures at me... Getting locked in the bathroom, that sucked. Getting glue put in my milk, that sucked. Getting locked in my locker, that sucked... Getting pushed down in the hall at high school when I was on crutches, that sucked... Having fruit-cups chucked at me by half the class, that sucked... And that's the little stuff... Being pinned against the wall by another guy's car (glad he knew where his front end was) while he threatened to squish me, not good... Being ganged up on by 20 people threatening to beat me up in the library, not good... Having someone jump on me from the diving board as I was coming up for air (and yes, it was deliberate), not good... Having someone push me while I was using the band saw and gouge up my thumb really nice, not good...

I was the quiet, shy type that everyone loved to pick on... Hell, after that whole Columbine thing, people stayed away from me for just that reason, that, and some of my poetry had accidentally been left on the table in the lunchroom, and was quickly the talk of the school (not vengeful poems by any means, just despair and anger, that sort of thing)... I would have given anything for them to have drawn pictures at me...

Bleh, school sucked...

 

[90Xjay]

Notice the chain of events:

Teacher took pic to dean of school. They lacked enough professionalism to handle the situation and call the parents and deal with it.

Dean calls police. Police lacked any sense and instead of working with the parents to have a good ole "scared straight" type of meeting with the boys, they wussed out.

The Po-leece called the states attorney's office who advised the arrest.

These were special ed kids, but still have the ability to know how to make a threat and that should have been delt with another way.

Every person in a position of authority was too consumed with covering their backsides, they passed the buck on up.
Losers....

 

[judge09]

RE: i live in

Pictures? PICTURES? I wish people drew pictures at me... Getting locked in the bathroom, that sucked. Getting glue put in my milk, that sucked. Getting locked in my locker, that sucked... Getting pushed down in the hall at high school when I was on crutches, that sucked... Having fruit-cups chucked at me by half the class, that sucked... And that's the little stuff... Being pinned against the wall by another guy's car (glad he knew where his front end was) while he threatened to squish me, not good... Being ganged up on by 20 people threatening to beat me up in the library, not good... Having someone jump on me from the diving board as I was coming up for air (and yes, it was deliberate), not good... Having someone push me while I was using the band saw and gouge up my thumb really nice, not good...

I was the quiet, shy type that everyone loved to pick on... Hell, after that whole Columbine thing, people stayed away from me for just that reason, that, and some of my poetry had accidentally been left on the table in the lunchroom, and was quickly the talk of the school (not vengeful poems by any means, just despair and anger, that sort of thing)... I would have given anything for them to have drawn pictures at me...

Bleh, school sucked...

wow, that sounds like it did suck sorry to hear it. kids can be cruel... but some of those things your talking about are worth a call to the police.

 

[mingez]

Notice the chain of events:

Teacher took pic to dean of school. They lacked enough professionalism to handle the situation and call the parents and deal with it.

Dean calls police. Police lacked any sense and instead of working with the parents to have a good ole "scared straight" type of meeting with the boys, they wussed out.

The Po-leece called the states attorney's office who advised the arrest.

These were special ed kids, but still have the ability to know how to make a threat and that should have been delt with another way.

Every person in a position of authority was too consumed with covering their backsides, they passed the buck on up.
Losers....

Those are all exellent points. It was all of the adults involved that dropped the ball. Why would the Dean and Teacher's first reaction be: calling the police? Are you kidding me?

Get the parents involved. If the parents are not cooperative, then you have another problem. But calling the cops first? What a crazed knee-jerk reaction. As this develops, let's hope that there are other factors, because 'tis a sad commentary about the state of things.

 

[Saurian]

Yeah, and had I thought about it at the time, that's what I would have done... Though I'm a peaceful person, I did get pushed a little far... There were some broken out taillights and a couple poundings... My wrath is really not something that you want to invoke... But that was many and many a month ago, don't really think about it anymore... They all got kicked out of college and are right back in Madison Heights, every single one...

Very good point 90XJ... This is exactly where passing the buck leads us... I think it was an insanely crazy reaction on the part of everyone... Can't do or say anything anymore without getting in some sort of disaster-trouble... (yet ANOTHER reason to go into hermitage up north)...

 

[TwistedCU]

Looking for advice/tips

Yeah pass the buck. That's todays biggest fad isn't it?

Another part of the problem here is the way they have taken the ability to discipline away from school teachers. Some schools make teachers answer for themselves for merely raising their voice. I'm sure that's a big reason so many kids are being drugged by the mass over-diagnosing of kids for ADHD and/or hyperactivity.

Like I said in my earlier post, that will be the end result here. The kids will not be dealt with, they will learn no lesson. They will be diagnosed as being attention deficit or hyperactive and given medication so they will no longer be a threat to others or themselves. Nice dolcile little boys.

You see more and more, many are passing the buck stright to the pharmaceutical companies.

It is absolutely tragic.

 

[Saurian]

That is a huge sticking point to me... I was restless and inattentive in school... We're talking young, like 1st, 2nd grade... Of course, they say ADD, and want to put me on the Ritalin... My mom wouldn't have it... She said, try the individualized learning, without the drugs... They fought her, and if there's anyone in this world whose buried wrath is worse than mine, it's my mom... In the end, they did... Found out that I wasn't ADD, I was bored. Yeah, bored, because when we went over something, I got it, and didn't need to spend three weeks of review...

He's jumpy, give him pills... He's sleepy, give him pills... He talks too much, give him pills... He's too quiet, give him pills... He doesn't play well with others, give him pills... Whatever happened to 2 major concepts: that kids are kids, and not miniature lawyers or CEOs who sit, smile, and listen, and the fact that everybody is created differently, and will therefore act, think, and respond differently to things than others... I just want to know when it became acceptable to forget these concepts in favor of a theory that you can medicate a society to make them all perfect model citizens, because it does not work that way...

 

[judge09]

Bad front axle U-joints? Help!

Have you seen the commercials for adult ADD drugs. They have this lady sitting in a meeting day dreaming and then the boss calls on her for some comments. I cant even tell you how many times I have sat in a meeting day dreaming. Not because of ADD but because I wasnt meant to work 10 hours a day for 5 days a week I need to move to Spain so I can get some siesta (sp?) time.

 

[Sully]

ADD is a made up illness. Just so people can sell pills that dont do anything but make a person crazy.