Explorer ProComp ES 3000 shocks

[geopig]

Hey all,

Just wanted to see if anyone has had any experience with these shocks, they're the same price as the Doetsch Tech 3000's and I can get them locally for $131 (for the set) and avoid the shipping. Essentially based on reading the threads I'm interested in the DT 3000's but would like a comparison. Cheers.

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

Stay away from these, the ES3000 is a gas-charged shock that rides very stiff. Just the opposite of the smooth-riding hydraulic Doetsch-Tech 3000's.

Check out www.jeepin.com you should be able to get them with free shipping. I've ordered from Jason there before, most prices match RE prices but with free shipping.

 

[L33TJ33P]

Check localy for Rancho or BDS they are the same shock as the DT. Made in the Same factory just boxed different and come with different stickers.

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

I don't know of any Rancho the same as the DT3000, which model Rancho?

 

[L33TJ33P]

The Ranch RS5000 is the same as the BDS Hydros and the same as the DT3000. I think. :-D

http://www.gorancho.com/products/shocks_2.stm#RS5000

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

The RS5000 is also a stiff riding gas-charged shock, most don't like them for the rough ride. I'd liken them to the ProComp ES3000 and stay away from them.

There are a lot of shocks that are the same despite the label, and most are off the same production line, but it takes some research to find out what's good and what to avoid.

 

[Craig]

I was in my buddy's shop a couple of months ago when the sales rep for Explorer ProComp was there. I asked him about the ProComps ES3000 vs the Rancho RS3000's and he told me they are almost the exact same shock. Rancho does all the R&D and other companies such as Explorer ProComp copy them and do minor changes to make them their own.

 

[Craig]

I have the ES3000's in my YJ and since it's driven mostly on the street, I like em. It handles better for cornering. When off road, I just air down to around 10-12psi which absorbs most of the ruts and bumps.

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

Which tires do you have to be airing down so low?

I wouldn't recommend airing down more to compensate for harsh shocks, you'll end up with junk in the bead and increase your risk of running a tire off the rim (unless you're running bias-ply tires).

 

[Craig]

Which tires do you have to be airing down so low?

I wouldn't recommend airing down more to compensate for harsh shocks, you'll end up with junk in the bead and increase your risk of running a tire off the rim (unless you're running bias-ply tires).

I have 33" Yokohama Geolander Mudterrains. I have had some bits and pieces of tree bark in the bead with my old bias ply swampers but nothing major and never anything with my Yoko's. Don't think it'll make any difference as to what type of tire you're running with stuff in the bead. I've only debeaded a tire once and that was at an odd angle on a rock. I just never go too fast when running at that low of pressure. With the kind of off roading we do, we're never going very fast anyway...it's mostly rocks, large ruts and water bars.

 

[Bounty__Hunter]

I wouldn't run under 15 if I ran those radials, and I used to run 18 offroad when I had radials. Anything less felt like the tire was going to roll right off the rim.

I run my bias swampers at about 10 to 12lbs.