I demand that you let me break the law!!
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JeepMonkey
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I think if Mexico really does legalize the drugs (marijauna, cocain, heroine) you'll see a lot of our loser, no-job-having, lazy Americans headed south. I'm all for that! Let's get rid of the ones that don't work and bring up some more that do. We can do an even trade....one of yours for one of ours! Just give the Mexican the coke heads social security number. Then they can start working legally and paying taxes.
prariepunk
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I was in Chorpus Christi the day of the protests or boycotting working construction, I heard that all the workers in Austin working on the new highway were told if they didn't come to work that day to take the rest of the next month or two off.... that and the construction site was really bare, wonder why... that and traffic wasn't as bad as normal
OutOfStep
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south442 said:
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
I agree that the problem needs to be handled and illegals should be deported and that the borders need to be secured; however, clearly as humans they are endowed with certain rights, to say that they have no rights is pretty un-American.
Additionally, until it is proved that they are not citizens they do have constitutional protections, remember the whole innocent until proven guilty. We are a free people and as such are not required to carry identification cards.
The constitution goes further and expressively states that we will have a writ of habeas corpus (cannot be detained without a ruling that the evidence is enough for incarceration) and that no bill of attainder or ex post facto law shall be passed (law declaring that any group of people are criminals without due process). Therefore, you cannot arrest masses of people, immediately judge them as guilty, and then proceed to carry out a sentence.
These protections make us work a little harder when deporting people; however, the protections they provide us far outweigh the negatives.
THANK GOD im not the only one that feels this way. i served in the united states air force, my brother in law was just killed in iraq by a roadside IED, and we did not sacrifice all of that for THEIR "RIGHT TO BE HERE".
IF THEY WANT TO COME TO AMERICA, COME LEGALLY, OR THEY SHOULD SERVE IN THE MILITARY AND EARN THE RIGHT.
IF THEY WANT TO COME TO AMERICA, COME LEGALLY, OR THEY SHOULD SERVE IN THE MILITARY AND EARN THE RIGHT.
jaymz77
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www.current.tv/video?id=2752168
The Great Debate
About the whole immigration buzz.
urple: Worth watching!urple:
The Great Debate
About the whole immigration buzz.
urple: Worth watching!urple:jeepwillie21
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I live in Dalton GA and they are about 70% of dalton. I loved it, Walmart was empty. You could shop and not have a big group of people stop in the middle of the walk way and there were no kids (1 - 14 years old) running around throwing stuff and looking for their parents.
redrooster
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OutOfStep said:
Step,
You have some good points, but come on. No the law doesn't say that you must carry an ID. But, ever been stopped on the street by a cop and not had one??? Bet you wished you did.
Habeus Corpus, Ex Post Facto...I'm no attorney, but we can arrest and detain them in mass groups and judge them as guilty, WHY??? Because being in the United States without proper registration is ILLEGAL.
Once again, I'm not against legal immmigrants being here at all. That's what America is all about. "If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" If not, you got to go!
Sparky-Watts
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redrooster said:
True dat. As illegal immigrants, they can be stopped, picked up, detained, and deported without a trial. That's what makes our Immigration Department such a great branch of law enforcement. They can be detained for an indefinite amount of time prior to being deported, as well. No right of due process necessary. None of that "turn'em loose after 48 or 72 hours if they're not charged with a crime" crap, either. They are here illegally (hence the brand "illegal aliens"), and therefore are criminals, and therefore should be treated as criminals. I still agree with a previous comment that bullets are cheaper than bus fare.
There are entire multi-billion dollar enterprises set up in several major cities across the US that specialize in forging documents for illegal aliens. They are so good that only a handful of government specialists can tell they are faked. So, even if the guy working next to you has a green card and an ID, there's a good chance he's here illegally anyway. Wanna have some fun? Drive by a construction site, turn on your PA on your CB and shout "Migra esta aqui!" and watch'em scatter like farts in the wind! That little trick used to keep me amused for hours on end in high school.....:lol:
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TwistedCU
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As it may be the case, it was not the intent of our fore-fathers for us to have a need for identification. Nor was it their intent for anyone to be jailed, deported, or have any other legal action against them without due process.
This is why we need sharpshooters at the border.
No, no, no... more seriously though, if they don't get in, then it wouldn't be a concern. We need to seal up the borders. Like it or not, you can't have both open borders and a democratic state - at least not for long.
This is why we need sharpshooters at the border.
No, no, no... more seriously though, if they don't get in, then it wouldn't be a concern. We need to seal up the borders. Like it or not, you can't have both open borders and a democratic state - at least not for long.
Sparky-Watts
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bchcky said:
I've always wondered how one would go about that, too. That's a lot of real estate to seal. Nothing short of the Berlin Wall would seem to work, and that is so cost prohibitive it isn't even funny.
Hey, I know......why don't we hire a bunch of illegals to build it for us at $2 an hour?:lol:
TwistedCU
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That is meant figuratively. You cannot stop them all. What we could do is stop letting them through and send back those who are caught trying to enter illegally. We could send back those who are here illegally.
With today's technology those remote border areas could be monitored very easily. Authorities could be sent/scrambled as needed.
We could effectively reduce the problem to a manageable level. Heck, there's folks in Texas willing to do it on a voluntary basis. I bet they are not alone.
With today's technology those remote border areas could be monitored very easily. Authorities could be sent/scrambled as needed.
We could effectively reduce the problem to a manageable level. Heck, there's folks in Texas willing to do it on a voluntary basis. I bet they are not alone.
Sparky-Watts
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I'd volunteer to go down and sit on a ridge above the Rio Grande with a sniper rifle and several thousand rounds of ammunition if the government would let me......
90Xjay
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Sparky-Watts said:
No.. then the president would call you a vigilante..:? :evil:
I'm with you Sparky, when you head this way, stop by my house, I'm good for a Mini-14 and about 1200 rounds..:bomb:
That still burns me up that he called the Minutemen that name:evil: :evil:
Then I found out today that our own Border Patrol agents are dropping dimes on the Minutemen and telling the Mexican govt where they are setting up next so that they can alert the poor immigrants to avoid them.
This is starting to crawl all over this redneck!
OutOfStep
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TwistedCopper said:
Exactly if you have a flood you fix the dam, once the dam is fixed then you get rid of the water. Plus I think that stringently enforcing hiring laws and slapping some serious fines down on large companies would make a world of difference. It's really made an impact here in Phx.
