....driving a car is not a sport.
90Xjay said:jeepmaster wrote:
....driving a car is not a sport.
a physically demanding one at that. The demands on the drivers to stay conditioned are enormous.
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Come on now...Lets not get too crazy. NASCAR may be entertaining but I dont think I would classify their drivers as athletes. I have battled traffic on I-95 near Ft. Lauderdale at 90mph. Thats a whole lot more crazy than a nascar oval and there is nothing physically challenging about it. Granted I dont think I could sit still for 500 miles making left turns but it would be more because I dont think I can hold my pee for 6 hours than physical exertion. Some of their drivers probably are athletes but thats not because they are drivers,hell we have athletes at work but I dont call engineering a sport. Nascar drivers have to be somewhat in shape to compete to just get into the car. You cant fit a 500lb guy through the window. Just look at the Indy 500 a chick almost won the race. In every other sport I can think of an athlete consists of brains, determination, AND PHYSICAL STRENGTH. In racing it actually pays to be smaller. Sorry man but as much as it is entertaining I have a hard time classifing it as a sport. I would put it in the same grouping as Pool and Poker, entertaining but more a game than a sport. But thats only my opinion.
BTW: No I havent been to a race, No I dont watch it on TV, No I am not a fan, Yes I would go to a race if invited (it looks more like a party than anything), and YES I like NASCAR....the video games for PS2 are awsome!
90Xjay said:I don't care enough about any sport or athlete to engage in a debate about who is or what is according to someone else. Most of the so-called stick and ball "pros" have burned me off of wasting my valuable time watching them because of there behavior and the poor role-models they are.
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judge09 said:90Xjay said:jeepmaster wrote:
....driving a car is not a sport.
a physically demanding one at that. The demands on the drivers to stay conditioned are enormous.
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Come on now...Lets not get too crazy. NASCAR may be entertaining but I dont think I would classify their drivers as athletes. I have battled traffic on I-95 near Ft. Lauderdale at 90mph. Thats a whole lot more crazy than a nascar oval and there is nothing physically challenging about it. Granted I dont think I could sit still for 500 miles making left turns but it would be more because I dont think I can hold my pee for 6 hours than physical exertion. Some of their drivers probably are athletes but thats not because they are drivers,hell we have athletes at work but I dont call engineering a sport. Nascar drivers have to be somewhat in shape to compete to just get into the car. You cant fit a 500lb guy through the window. Just look at the Indy 500 a chick almost won the race. In every other sport I can think of an athlete consists of brains, determination, AND PHYSICAL STRENGTH. In racing it actually pays to be smaller.
Oh, good Lord....you are soooooo wrong!!!! I seriously doubt you could drive a race car at nearly 200 mph for 500 miles. It would dang near kill you if you weren't in perfect physical health! Try pulling anywhere from 2 to 4 lateral G's for 4 hours in a cockpit of a car that reaches temps upwards of 120 degrees in a full firesuit and helmet and very little ventilation, all the while concentrating on hitting the right "mark" going into each turn to keep from spinning out and being a spot on the wall, only inches from 42 other cars doing the exact same thing. As usual, someone who doesn't know jack about racing doesn't realize that every lap around the track is pushing the envelope, being right on the edge of spinning out and slamming the wall. I don't think you could do it....in fact, I'm sure you couldn't do it. Mark Martin is one of the oldest drivers in Nascar (retiring at the end of this year) and he does 1000 sit-ups a day as part of his workout to stay in shape enough to drive. Could you do that many? The training regimen for a Nascar driver is more vigorous than that of a professional boxer, and rivals that of many basketball and football programs.
.....as I've said in other threads on the subject, don't knock that which you don't know, because your ignorance will come up and bite you on the backside.
'nuff sed. :evil:
Sparky-Watts said:judge09 said:90Xjay said:jeepmaster wrote:
....driving a car is not a sport.
a physically demanding one at that. The demands on the drivers to stay conditioned are enormous.
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Come on now...Lets not get too crazy. NASCAR may be entertaining but I dont think I would classify their drivers as athletes. I have battled traffic on I-95 near Ft. Lauderdale at 90mph. Thats a whole lot more crazy than a nascar oval and there is nothing physically challenging about it. Granted I dont think I could sit still for 500 miles making left turns but it would be more because I dont think I can hold my pee for 6 hours than physical exertion. Some of their drivers probably are athletes but thats not because they are drivers,hell we have athletes at work but I dont call engineering a sport. Nascar drivers have to be somewhat in shape to compete to just get into the car. You cant fit a 500lb guy through the window. Just look at the Indy 500 a chick almost won the race. In every other sport I can think of an athlete consists of brains, determination, AND PHYSICAL STRENGTH. In racing it actually pays to be smaller.
Oh, good Lord....you are soooooo wrong!!!! I seriously doubt you could drive a race car at nearly 200 mph for 500 miles. It would dang near kill you if you weren't in perfect physical health! Try pulling anywhere from 2 to 4 lateral G's for 4 hours in a cockpit of a car that reaches temps upwards of 120 degrees in a full firesuit and helmet and very little ventilation, all the while concentrating on hitting the right "mark" going into each turn to keep from spinning out and being a spot on the wall, only inches from 42 other cars doing the exact same thing. As usual, someone who doesn't know jack about racing doesn't realize that every lap around the track is pushing the envelope, being right on the edge of spinning out and slamming the wall. I don't think you could do it....in fact, I'm sure you couldn't do it. Mark Martin is one of the oldest drivers in Nascar (retiring at the end of this year) and he does 1000 sit-ups a day as part of his workout to stay in shape enough to drive. Could you do that many? The training regimen for a Nascar driver is more vigorous than that of a professional boxer, and rivals that of many basketball and football programs.
.....as I've said in other threads on the subject, don't knock that which you don't know, because your ignorance will come up and bite you on the backside.
'nuff sed. :evil:
Damn Sparky, Holy personal attack. Are you having a bad day or something. Go ahead and state you opinion (even if it differs from mine)but you dont know "jack" about me, my physical condition, or my driving ability. I didnt realize you were a professional driving expert and know all there is to know about NASCAR. and I also didnt realize I needed to be an expert on a subject before offering an opinion on this message board. I obviously struck a nerve with you, but you can lay off the personal attacks and keep it clean.
When they were introducing the drivers Sunday morning, she looked a little like Michael Jackson, kind of weird. That's the only time I've seen her though.jps4jeep said:and Danica Patrick Is still super hot!
and young! and unfortunately engaged :evil:jps4jeep said:and Danica Patrick Is still super hot!
jeepmaster said:yea we were on the highway on our way to KC, i guess maybe you hire it to drive to a race? or just cruise around and watch the race? the difference between golf and racing is the fact that in NASCAR they're DRIVING A CAR. how is that sporting, granted you have to be in good shape, but that makes anyone who drives fast an "athlete' no way. walking requires physical fitness too, imagine if you couldnt walk more than 10 feet without becoming out ofbreath and falling down. now imagine doing that the 20 feet across a street with cars coming. that could nearly kill you too. im not saying i can do it, but i cant play golf either which is why im neither a NASCAR driverr or pro golfer.
sparky just because its hot and stuff doenst mean its a sport. are astronauts athletes? no, they're athletic, but not athletes and they put up with way worse conditions than jeff gordon
and 88 wrangles that is the best piece of advice you can ever give a high schooler. i made many an enemy with cheerleaders in high school by telling them waving streamers around and yelling cheers doesnt make them a sport.