Convert TJ to "Flex-Fuel" or E85?

socal_rob

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Has anyone out there converted a TJ to use E85 and/or ethanol, as well as regular gasoline? Just wondering if it's possible and what's involved.

Thanks,
Rob
 

I've read that you would need a stainless steel tank or tank liner, and stainless steel fuel lines. Not sure what else.

I've also read that there is a decrease in power and effeciency with E85, so what you may save at the pump would be lost in a lower mpg.
 
Bounty__Hunter said:
I've read that you would need a stainless steel tank or tank liner, and stainless steel fuel lines. Not sure what else.

I've also read that there is a decrease in power and effeciency with E85, so what you may save at the pump would be lost in a lower mpg.

I thought there was an increase in power, it is a higher octane gas. You do lose about 20% of your mpg however. I cant remember why it is.
 

from what i read you do need the s/s components as the ethanol is corrosive to rubber (and plastics) - there is a possible drop in mileage but the price and emission improvements are supposed to make up for it - problem here in vegas is there are only 2 stations (i'm aware of) in the valley selling it - i drive by one of them every day on the way to work (hence my interest in converting) and the price is usually only 10 cents cheaper than the std 87 octane. but i'm sure w/demand the availabiliy will increase (along w/the price unfortunately - i mean look what happened to diesel when all the cars/trucks and suv's started using it! - i'm glad i dont pay for the fuel in my work truck!)
 
What with swapping out all the stainless stuff and the loss in MPG, it doesn't sound as if the cost/benefit ratio is worth it.
 
ultimately its "good for the environment" so the left wing environmentalist, bambi loving, tree hugging whacko's are happy - sorry... (stepping down off my soap box....) - and its supposed to help our country wean itself from foreign oil (another problem thanks to the aforementioned whacko folks.... damn soapbox!!! down LV!!! DOWN OFF THERE!!!!) - reminding myself this is NOT a political forum....
 

It's very corrosive to everything it comes in contact with (it's a form or alchohol), including internal engine parts. E85 and ethenol were popular several years ago and since then it's become less so. It's kind of a pain if you ask me
 
Thanks for the great replies. I'm curious about ethanol, but haven't (yet) been convinced of its ultimate benefits. I like the idea of a clean(er) burning fuel...just a bit of a left wing whacko here, LVRockCrawler :-) ...but am especially interested in doing something to lessen dependence on oil.

The beauty (on paper, at least) of ethanol is the fact that we can grow it right here in the US. Farming in this country is becoming a dying art, despite the fact that we have an abundance of resources. It's just crazy. Ethanol gives Americans jobs, keeps farmers in business, and, most importantly, provides an alternative to our oil addiction. Let's face it, the Middle East wouldn't be what it is today if the rest of the world wasn't so addicted to oil. Whatever your political views, we're perpetuating the problems by relying so heavily on countries that do everything they can to work against us. I'd like to see the US become more self-reliant...and a home-grown source of fuel would go a long way towards achieving that aim.

Does anyone out there know anyone running ethanol (in a Jeep or any other vehicle)? Found any good sites with info on ethanol conversions, first hand experiences, blog entries, anything worth a read?

Thanks!

-Rob
 
It would be much cheaper to convert to CNG or propane.

I drive ethanol, and drive E85 when I'm in Illinois, drives the same as gasoline; you just get 30% less fuel economy.

Ethanol would be a great fuel if the Fed's would let the people of this country make it and stop worrying about their stinking sin taxes.
 
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