Global warming AKA, Al Gore is a dumb**** who doesnt have a clue & should lose his NP

currupt4130

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Global warming AKA, Al Gore is a dumb**** who doesnt have a clue & should lose his NP

I've been saying it all along, just had a hard time find arguments that agreed with me because of the overwhelming popularity that the inventor of the internet has. I don't understand how a man with no background in any science at all can logically conclude the stuff that he has come up with. (NP stands for Nobel Prize)

Read this article today:

Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.

In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.

As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.

For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.

R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."

Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."

"Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."

In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.

A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.

"The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."

The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."

But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.
 
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It looks like that ACC college is beginning to sink in some knowledge afterall! ;)
 

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Just a little ribbing, thats all. :?| If you took offense, I meant none.

See, you ain't been around long enough! None taken, I take it with the best of them. Ask anyone here.
 
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Now that I know that: I can take it and dish it out. You never can tell with people these days. Everyone keeps stressing political correctness. All it is doing is making our country a bunch of slack jawed f******s. This is a quote from a movie with the governator in it, as I tend to quote movies a lot. Anyone know which one? It is a very easy one.
 
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Now that that is out of the way, were you on campus last April? I am sorry for what happened, as most red blooded Americans are. I havent went back and read any of the post from before about August of '07.
 

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I've tended to take all the global warming discussions with a grain of salt. That are a lot of scientests that agree with the above article or that just don't agree that we are going through a warming period. I really don't know who to believe.
 
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currupt, can you give me a link to the source? Thanks!
 
Re: Global warming AKA, Al Gore is a dumb**** who doesnt have a clue & should lose hi

I don't understand how a man with no background in any science at all can logically conclude the stuff that he has come up with.

Ironically, most scientists agree with him.
 

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I agree currupt, I've always thought everything out of that mans mouth is BS. I know there have been other people before him, but it still doesn't change my mind. Now they have a show on Discovery how 6 degrees is going to flood our cities.
 
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What' wrong with global warming?

I hate cold weather anyway!

BTW... these same fools (experts) in the news were claiming "global cooling" about 20 years ago.

Now that really scares me....

...did I say I hate cold weather?

Larry
 
Global warming AKA, Al Gore is a dumb**** who doesnt have a clue & should lose his NP

its still climate change whatever way you look at it.

if cooling is happening and if emmisions from 4 x4 s ( as the british governmenrt try an kid us on) cause warming I say make it law to drive a 4x4 then we can beat it :p


in reality if the ice caps melt its goinna make britain bloddy cold as the gulf stream may stop and we lose our temperate climate and end up with a canadian climate
 
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Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:55 AM

By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size

Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory?

Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.

Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.

The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate.

Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.

As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seems to have joined the ranks of the skeptics.

As the Express notes, scientists are saying the northern Hemisphere has endured its coldest winter in decades, adding that snow cover across the area is at its greatest since 1966. The newspaper cites the one exception — Western Europe, which had, until the weekend when temperatures plunged to as low as -10 C in some places, been basking in unseasonably warm weather.

Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviest snowfalls in decades. Central and southern China, the United States, and Canada were hit hard by snowstorms. In China, snowfall was so heavy that over 100,000 houses collapsed under the weight of snow.

Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman, and northern Saudi Arabia report the heaviest falls in years and below-zero temperatures. In Afghanistan, snow and freezing weather killed 120 people. Even Baghdad had a snowstorm, the first in the memory of most residents.

AFP news reports icy temperatures have just swept through south China, stranding 180,000 people and leading to widespread power cuts just as the area was recovering from the worst weather in 50 years, the government said Monday. The latest cold snap has taken a severe toll in usually temperate Yunnan province, which has been struck by heavy snowfalls since Thursday, a government official from the provincial disaster relief office told AFP.

Twelve people have died there, state Xinhua news agency reported, and four remained missing as of Saturday.

An ongoing record-long spell of cold weather in Vietnam's northern region, which started on Jan. 14, has killed nearly 60,000 cattle, mainly bull and buffalo calves, local press reported Monday. By Feb. 17, the spell had killed a total of 59,962 cattle in the region, including 7,349 in the Ha Giang province, 6,400 in Lao Cai, and 5,571 in Bac Can province, said Hoang Kim Giao, director of the Animal Husbandry Department under the Vietnamese Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, according to the Pioneer newspaper.

In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England, according to the Express, which reports that experts say that February could end up as one of the coldest in Britain in the past 10 years with the freezing night-time conditions expected to stay around a frigid -8 C until at least the middle of the week. And the BBC reports that a bus company's efforts to cut global warming emissions have led to services being disrupted by cold weather.

Meanwhile Athens News reports that a raging snow storm that blanketed most of Greece over the weekend and continued into the early morning hours on Monday, plunging the country into sub-zero temperatures. The agency reported that public transport buses were at a standstill on Monday in the wider Athens area, while ships remained in ports, public services remained closed, and schools and courthouses in the more severely-stricken prefectures were also closed.

Scores of villages, mainly on the island of Crete, and in the prefectures of Evia, Argolida, Arcadia, Lakonia, Viotia, and the Cyclades islands were snowed in.

More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete and temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.

If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.

© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
 

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http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/glo.../19/73798.html.......In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England.........

Ya' gotta remember that's that commie Centigrade stuff!!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's only 14 degrees farenheit (spelling?). Piece o' cake!!!

Personally, I'm with Larrymo49................I HATE the cold. Finally stayin' in the 70's here and I'm lovin' it..............but, perhaps we could send all this rain out to replenish Lake Mead..........wouldn't bother me a bit.
 
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dailytech.com said:
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.

No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

Meteorologist Anthony Watts compiled the results of all the sources. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to erase nearly all the global warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year time. For all sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn't itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let's hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans -- and most of the crops and animals we depend on -- prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.
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I do know that in 2002 Colorado was experiencing a severe drought. We couldn't get water naturally. This year most of our mountain reservoirs are near full, full or overfull. Our snow pack is at 185% of normal. Roofs are collapsing under the weight in cities like Durango.
Spring runaff is expected to be difficult to deal with.

I don't know if I'll be able run some of my favorite trails here until August...
 

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I do know that in 2002 Colorado was experiencing a severe drought. We couldn't get water naturally. This year most of our mountain reservoirs are near full, full or overfull. Our snow pack is at 185% of normal. Roofs are collapsing under the weight in cities like Durango.
Spring runaff is expected to be difficult to deal with.

I don't know if I'll be able run some of my favorite trails here until August...

Actually, we're still way back of what we'll need. The Fire restrictions and water rationing is still in effect for this summer. It seems we've had a lot of precip, but we haven't had enough. January was below average by a significant amount. We had some big snow, but not enough consistent snow this winter.

Meterologist says drought in 2008 still possible despite storms : State and West : Boulder Daily Camera

I wish that wasn't true, because I sure want to have a campfires out of designated campgrounds this year. I hate camping amongst other people.
 
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